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Re: [opensuse-project] openSUSE Guiding Principles
- From: M Harris <harrismh777@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 16:16:51 -0500
- Message-id: <200705241616.51576.harrismh777@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Thursday 24 May 2007 04:24, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
> Animated discussions are not negative if they bring somewhere, and they
> produce some result. They happen at work and in life.
Animated discussion is fine... I've almost developed it into an art... the
problem is vulgar lewd profanity. I am not advocating right-wing moralism
either... just the sensibilities expressed in the first draft Guiding
Principles. Vulgar lewd profanity is in conflict with the rough draft
provisions.
> Respect must be earned, don't you think?
Respect as an individual is a human right... no one deserves to be attacked,
sworn at, profaned, etc... They may have disrespect for the other person's
antics (for instance, I do not respect barbarians) but that never gives
someone the right to disrespect that person through personal attack or
profanity.
> You can irritate and hurt
> people's sensitivity even with polite messages like yours, by trying
> discredit members which have been contributing to the distribution since
> a lot of time or by emphasising issues which are really marginal.
For my part in upsetting anyone's sensitivities with regard to protocol and
netiquette on the opensuse lists I can only offer sincere regret. Again,
please remember that some of the perceived protocol violation was the result
of following protocol from others, or taking the advice of old-timers for
proper venue.
> To be clear, once for all, *you* were attacked as a consequence of
> *your* behaviour (continuous off-topic posts, hijacking threads, ...).
Search the archive and tell me please why Alexey Eremenko was attacked here:
(Alexey did not deserve this barbaric behavior)
<clip>
>>Wtf is this? https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=275656
>>Can you please stay away from bugzilla?
>>Can you please read the instructions of the damn program?
>>Can you please stop sending scandal emails about your major problems?
>>Can you please stop being annoying and wasting people's time?
>>If you are incompetent, just step away from the keyboard...
>>Goddamn it
>>Marcio
>>--
>>Druid
</end clip>
Please tell me how Alexey Eremenko deserved to be attacked--- why was it
necessary to swear and defame... quite in opposition to the proposed Guiding
Principles.
Guiding Principles cannot legislate any more than my perceived moralization.
But they are a start. Again, if the participants of the opensuse mailing
lists would use common sense, common sensibility, then the Guiding Principles
will go a long way towards improving the PR problem for Novell... at least on
the opensuse mailing lists.
--
Kind regards,
M Harris <><
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> Animated discussions are not negative if they bring somewhere, and they
> produce some result. They happen at work and in life.
Animated discussion is fine... I've almost developed it into an art... the
problem is vulgar lewd profanity. I am not advocating right-wing moralism
either... just the sensibilities expressed in the first draft Guiding
Principles. Vulgar lewd profanity is in conflict with the rough draft
provisions.
> Respect must be earned, don't you think?
Respect as an individual is a human right... no one deserves to be attacked,
sworn at, profaned, etc... They may have disrespect for the other person's
antics (for instance, I do not respect barbarians) but that never gives
someone the right to disrespect that person through personal attack or
profanity.
> You can irritate and hurt
> people's sensitivity even with polite messages like yours, by trying
> discredit members which have been contributing to the distribution since
> a lot of time or by emphasising issues which are really marginal.
For my part in upsetting anyone's sensitivities with regard to protocol and
netiquette on the opensuse lists I can only offer sincere regret. Again,
please remember that some of the perceived protocol violation was the result
of following protocol from others, or taking the advice of old-timers for
proper venue.
> To be clear, once for all, *you* were attacked as a consequence of
> *your* behaviour (continuous off-topic posts, hijacking threads, ...).
Search the archive and tell me please why Alexey Eremenko was attacked here:
(Alexey did not deserve this barbaric behavior)
<clip>
>>Wtf is this? https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=275656
>>Can you please stay away from bugzilla?
>>Can you please read the instructions of the damn program?
>>Can you please stop sending scandal emails about your major problems?
>>Can you please stop being annoying and wasting people's time?
>>If you are incompetent, just step away from the keyboard...
>>Goddamn it
>>Marcio
>>--
>>Druid
</end clip>
Please tell me how Alexey Eremenko deserved to be attacked--- why was it
necessary to swear and defame... quite in opposition to the proposed Guiding
Principles.
Guiding Principles cannot legislate any more than my perceived moralization.
But they are a start. Again, if the participants of the opensuse mailing
lists would use common sense, common sensibility, then the Guiding Principles
will go a long way towards improving the PR problem for Novell... at least on
the opensuse mailing lists.
--
Kind regards,
M Harris <><
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