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Re: [opensuse-project] Slogan proposal: openSUSE - Not for my mom, but for tech enthusiasts
- From: M Harris <harrismh777@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 14:58:31 -0500
- Message-id: <200705021458.31538.harrismh777@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 01:54, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
> >The reason I would purchase SLED, SLES is to receive world
> > class tiered support, printed documentation, voice support,
> > indemnification, etc.
>
> You are kidding yourself with the support story. This just doesn't bring
> enough cash. I don't see people buy support if the product runs well.
> Novell would starve. It's a vicious circle that I don't know an escape
> for.
Not at all... Novell just hasn't figured it out yet...
... the idea of services and support does not imply that the product (SLED,
SLES) does or does not work well. In fact they should work very well... and
Novell should have tiered support offerings for it. Allow me to explain.
Just monitor the mailing lists... any of them... I monitor about 100 mailing
lists for many different products (I monitor *all* of the SUSE lists) and I
notice that there is a huge demand for support services that has *nothing*
whatever to do with bugs or the product not working well... it has everything
to do with people wanting to know HOW TO DO SOMETHING and not having enough
time or skill to RTFM. --- and here is the big shocker for the Novell
team... *they are willing to pay for it* !
Picture an ISSC (International SUSE Support Center). This center is staffed
with hundreds of service personnel who work multiple layers (tiers) of
support.
1st tier) installation support-- 30 days, voice, fax
2nd tier) bug report --free, fax, forum
3rd tier) general software support service contract annual --- fax, forum
4th tier) general software support service contract annual --- return call
5th tier) general software support service contract annual --- live voice
per call) general software support service --- 900 number, mintues rate
Now, picture prepackaged software distribution of SLED (SLES) (if it were me
I'd try to solicit HP as the provider) with a desktop hot-link for software
service contract with ISSC ... there can actually be several locations
(mirrored servers, etc Germany, India, United Kingdom, United States) The
folks who purchase HP or DELL preloaded machines are going to need support
for all kinds of things ---- and they are willing to pay for this service
through annual service contract ---- I know, I've seen it work at the IBM
Support Centers for over twenty years.
Look at it this way... monitor the forums and find every time someone asked
how to config grub to do this or that... or how do I adjust my video, or how
can I compile a kernel, or how do I make DVD work, or whatever... and then
picture them being able to purchase the right to ask those questions from a
competant support representative (get the correct answer quickly through
whatever tier at an appropriate price) and pay for the right to ask. Instead
of being told to RTFM they get their answer and they pay the bill, or they
pay for their service contract. As it is now folks pay hundreds of dollars
for M$ products with limited support... but suppose instead that they pay
limited dollars for the software and $150 dollars for an annual software
support service contract from Novell... or Canonical... or ME... there are
literally billions of questions to be answered, and millions of people
willing to pay for those answers... think about it.
--
Kind regards,
M Harris <><
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> >The reason I would purchase SLED, SLES is to receive world
> > class tiered support, printed documentation, voice support,
> > indemnification, etc.
>
> You are kidding yourself with the support story. This just doesn't bring
> enough cash. I don't see people buy support if the product runs well.
> Novell would starve. It's a vicious circle that I don't know an escape
> for.
Not at all... Novell just hasn't figured it out yet...
... the idea of services and support does not imply that the product (SLED,
SLES) does or does not work well. In fact they should work very well... and
Novell should have tiered support offerings for it. Allow me to explain.
Just monitor the mailing lists... any of them... I monitor about 100 mailing
lists for many different products (I monitor *all* of the SUSE lists) and I
notice that there is a huge demand for support services that has *nothing*
whatever to do with bugs or the product not working well... it has everything
to do with people wanting to know HOW TO DO SOMETHING and not having enough
time or skill to RTFM. --- and here is the big shocker for the Novell
team... *they are willing to pay for it* !
Picture an ISSC (International SUSE Support Center). This center is staffed
with hundreds of service personnel who work multiple layers (tiers) of
support.
1st tier) installation support-- 30 days, voice, fax
2nd tier) bug report --free, fax, forum
3rd tier) general software support service contract annual --- fax, forum
4th tier) general software support service contract annual --- return call
5th tier) general software support service contract annual --- live voice
per call) general software support service --- 900 number, mintues rate
Now, picture prepackaged software distribution of SLED (SLES) (if it were me
I'd try to solicit HP as the provider) with a desktop hot-link for software
service contract with ISSC ... there can actually be several locations
(mirrored servers, etc Germany, India, United Kingdom, United States) The
folks who purchase HP or DELL preloaded machines are going to need support
for all kinds of things ---- and they are willing to pay for this service
through annual service contract ---- I know, I've seen it work at the IBM
Support Centers for over twenty years.
Look at it this way... monitor the forums and find every time someone asked
how to config grub to do this or that... or how do I adjust my video, or how
can I compile a kernel, or how do I make DVD work, or whatever... and then
picture them being able to purchase the right to ask those questions from a
competant support representative (get the correct answer quickly through
whatever tier at an appropriate price) and pay for the right to ask. Instead
of being told to RTFM they get their answer and they pay the bill, or they
pay for their service contract. As it is now folks pay hundreds of dollars
for M$ products with limited support... but suppose instead that they pay
limited dollars for the software and $150 dollars for an annual software
support service contract from Novell... or Canonical... or ME... there are
literally billions of questions to be answered, and millions of people
willing to pay for those answers... think about it.
--
Kind regards,
M Harris <><
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