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Re: [opensuse-project] Slogan proposal: openSUSE - Not for my mom, but for tech enthusiasts
- From: Pascal Bleser <pascal.bleser@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 23:57:59 +0200
- Message-id: <4637B7E7.4030305@xxxxxxxxx>
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Martin Schlander wrote:
> Den Tuesday 01 May 2007 19:54:36 skrev jdd sur free:
>> Martin Schlander wrote:
>>> Steinman came up with this brilliant idea:
>>>
>>> openSUSE - Not for my mom, but for tech enthusiasts
>> wrong, I just make a 10.2 computer for my (87 old) mom :-))
>
> Are you saying Justin Steinman could be wrong?
Martin, it should be:
"openSUSE - not for Justin Steinman's mom, but for anyone else"
> Obviously openSUSE is much less stable than Ubuntu non-LTS releases, and also
> much more difficult to use. At least I can't interpret his comments
> otherwise.
>
> He said more or less the same thing on the Linux Action Show 6 months ago.
> openSUSE is only for enthusiasts, hobbyists, home developers etc., regular
> people can't use it.
> http://www.linuxactionshow.com/?p=64
>
> With friends like these who needs enemies ;-)
Right.
"keep your friends close, keep your enemies in the gutter".. wasn't it ?
> I think we need one of two things:
> 1) An explanation, or;
> 2) Some marting coordination
>
> openSUSE.org says we're working to make "the world's most usable Linux", and
> everytime Novell marketers (Justin Steinman and previously Ted Haeger) open
> their mouthes they say "it's bleeding edge for geeks only". I think we have
> the right to be confused. And I think this is a serious issue that needs to
> be addressed.
<justkidding>
Ted left, one to go.
</justkidding>
No, seriously, it shows the disconnect between the people working on
(open)SUSE and its community on one hand, and Novell on the other side
of the Atlantic (before starting an endless off-topic thread [1] about
earth maps, I mean the US).
But there seems to be hope, as at least some ex-Ximian folks have
started to use openSUSE as their distribution (always wondered what they
were using) -- amongst other things, it made them notice the sorry state
of GNOME on openSUSE, as compared to KDE (I said "made": now there's
[2]). Although a lot of credit goes to James Ogley for pushing those
repositories out of the ground.
Anyhow, Justin's words are disrespectful at best. Even Red Hat managers
and advocates-alike wouldn't drop a statement like that.
[1] right, this is opensuse-project, not opensuse@xxxxxxxxxxxx ;)
[2] http://software.opensuse.org/download/GNOME:/
cheers
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-o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/
/\\ <pascal.bleser@xxxxxxxxx> <guru@xxxxxxxxxxx>
_\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane.
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Martin Schlander wrote:
> Den Tuesday 01 May 2007 19:54:36 skrev jdd sur free:
>> Martin Schlander wrote:
>>> Steinman came up with this brilliant idea:
>>>
>>> openSUSE - Not for my mom, but for tech enthusiasts
>> wrong, I just make a 10.2 computer for my (87 old) mom :-))
>
> Are you saying Justin Steinman could be wrong?
Martin, it should be:
"openSUSE - not for Justin Steinman's mom, but for anyone else"
> Obviously openSUSE is much less stable than Ubuntu non-LTS releases, and also
> much more difficult to use. At least I can't interpret his comments
> otherwise.
>
> He said more or less the same thing on the Linux Action Show 6 months ago.
> openSUSE is only for enthusiasts, hobbyists, home developers etc., regular
> people can't use it.
> http://www.linuxactionshow.com/?p=64
>
> With friends like these who needs enemies ;-)
Right.
"keep your friends close, keep your enemies in the gutter".. wasn't it ?
> I think we need one of two things:
> 1) An explanation, or;
> 2) Some marting coordination
>
> openSUSE.org says we're working to make "the world's most usable Linux", and
> everytime Novell marketers (Justin Steinman and previously Ted Haeger) open
> their mouthes they say "it's bleeding edge for geeks only". I think we have
> the right to be confused. And I think this is a serious issue that needs to
> be addressed.
<justkidding>
Ted left, one to go.
</justkidding>
No, seriously, it shows the disconnect between the people working on
(open)SUSE and its community on one hand, and Novell on the other side
of the Atlantic (before starting an endless off-topic thread [1] about
earth maps, I mean the US).
But there seems to be hope, as at least some ex-Ximian folks have
started to use openSUSE as their distribution (always wondered what they
were using) -- amongst other things, it made them notice the sorry state
of GNOME on openSUSE, as compared to KDE (I said "made": now there's
[2]). Although a lot of credit goes to James Ogley for pushing those
repositories out of the ground.
Anyhow, Justin's words are disrespectful at best. Even Red Hat managers
and advocates-alike wouldn't drop a statement like that.
[1] right, this is opensuse-project, not opensuse@xxxxxxxxxxxx ;)
[2] http://software.opensuse.org/download/GNOME:/
cheers
- --
-o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/
/\\ <pascal.bleser@xxxxxxxxx> <guru@xxxxxxxxxxx>
_\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane.
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