Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (66 mails)

[Jan Karjalainen <jrock@xxxxxxx>]

Pascal Bleser wrote:
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> Thomas Hertweck wrote:
> > Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 16 January 2007 22:54, Martin Schlander wrote:
> > >
> > > > 2) Bleeding edge vs. stability:
> > > > [...]
> > > > I don't want openSUSE to become Debian Sarge, but I think we could move the
> > > > balance a little bit towards stability and still fulfill our obligations
> > > > wrt. to hardening stuff for SLE and without requiring very many resources
> > > > either.
> > > > [...]
> > > I disagree on this.  If anyone wants stability, there's SLED10.  And it has 
> > > fast update servers too, no problems with mirrors or speed.
> > >
> > > An openSUSE release will feel like an "old baby" if it has old components 
> > > (kernel, X, KDE etc).  Looks bad.
> > I disagree with you and fully agree with Martin's opinion quoted above.
> > SLED is not an alternative to openSUSE. I think the release should focus
> > a bit more on stability than cutting-edge software. With the build
> > service in place and available software repositories for KDE, kernel,
> > etc., you can always upgrade your stable release to newer components if
> > you like. But forcing everybody right from the beginning (release) to
> > use cutting-edge versions of software is not the way to go! You should
> > realize that openSUSE is not a playground and test bed for freaks but
> > used on many production systems, for instance in small and mid-sized
> > companies, or even at home - those installations are actually used for
> > work and have to function!
>
> I agree with the latter, too.
> The Build Service repositories offer a broad choice of bleeding-edge
> versions of many packages and subsystems.
> That should be the place for the latest X.org, KDE, GNOME, Apache, PHP,
> etc...
>
> A sane balance is what is needed. Not too old stuff, but not too risky
> either. Also wrt the reputation of openSUSE (which is very important in
> order to get customers for SLED/SLES IMO). If openSUSE is too broken,
> there won't be as much confidence in SLED/SLES as if openSUSE was really
> solid (but still shipping recent versions of packages.. though maybe the
> the very latest bleeding edge release candidate).
>
> cheers
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>   -o) Pascal Bleser     http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/
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>  _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane.
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I vote for stability too...

/J

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