Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (187 mails)

[Thomas Hertweck <Thomas.Hertweck@xxxxxx>]

Peter Flodin wrote:
> On 12/28/06, Thomas Hertweck <Thomas.Hertweck@xxxxxx> wrote:
>> [...] and what it might mean, and so on... 
> 
> You forgot, people who make sweeping generalizations :-)

No, this is contained in the "and so on" part ;-)

> It is ironic that the original post suggesting email by discussion has
> degraded into a "nah that will never work", instead of coming up with
> constructive steps to improve discussion on this list.

The original proposal was to hold meetings by email instead of IRC and I
think everybody so far seems to agree that (at least at the moment) it's
not really feasible. We would require (what I called) certain
restrictions on the mailing list, you called it "moderated list". That
sounds like the same thing. The thread was not started to discuss steps
to improve the current situations on the mailing lists - that's why I
think it's not ironic.

The main problem is that we cannot have IRC meetings with world-wide
participants. Nobody wants to stay up during night just to participate
an IRC meeting. This means, the fundamental problem cannot be solved by
real-time IRC meetings or any real-time communication. There exist
certain workarounds like...

> [...]
> 1. We could for every second meeting switch between a morning meeting
> and afternoon meeting (in local time to SUSE) - I actually brought
> this up a long time ago and it was rejected but it could be re
> examined again, to allow more people to attend at least every second
> meeting.

...the one proposed here. However, even this alternating time for
meetings would not solve all problems (e.g. it would still not allow me
to participate a meeting; you might now say that I don't really matter
and maybe you're right, but it's just an example).

> 2. Anybody can take the transcript and continue discussion of any
> topic here (of course too late for any decision that has already been
> made in a meeting)

True. I would appreciate if those transcripts/logs or a summary (if
available) were sent by email. My experience is that your audience is
much broader if you deliver the information by email - if people need to
go to a certain website to look for the meeting minutes, you've already
lost half of the audience.

Cheers, Th.
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