-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Craig Millar wrote:
With regards to package wishlists on the website[1]. There are several requests for packages that are already available through the build service / packman / guru. Is it preferable to link to these available packages (bearing in mind that build service packages especially may not be production ready), either with or without a disclaimer that the packages therein may not be of the standard expected, or to remove them as they are available elsewhere (esp in a more popular source, such as pm or guru)?
Most packages in the build service are not less production ready than on Packman or Guru ;) "Production ready" or not only comes down to one thing: testing. Unless/until there is a rating/feedback system, a bugtracker, and/or stable/experimental branches we don't see how well packages have been tested. And we're missing such a system in the build service as well as on the packman and guru websites. But indeed, the real question is: should they be removed from the wishlist if they are already available in a repository that is not SUSE *.* nor Factory.
On occasion, links have been supplied to, for eg, packman resources, only for the user to complain that it's not part of the official openSUSE builds and therefore less desirable[2].
Hm. Yeah, but people have to understand that we can't have dozens and dozens of packages added to the distribution. The distribution is limited in terms or resources (packagers working for Novell) and media (CD/DVD disk space). OTOH, people might want a few of those packages on the wishlist to be added to the distribution. Others might want to just have a package, doesn't matter if it comes from the distro, a build service, packman or guru repository (or another community repository, for that matter).
Personally I tend to trust packman (and indeed guru and several build service) builds having used them for ages. My question is more about the intent of these pages. Is it to provide any link (no matter how reliable) to SUSE rpms, or is it to provide links to better known (or only official) builds?
Good question indeed.
I think the essential issue is that of relationship of trust built up between a (group of) user(s) and a particular packager. Perhaps a revamp of the wishlist pages is in order, something along the lines of wishlist items that are (or perhaps in factory), officially fulfilled, and a list of repos that are available (unofficially, and stated as such). [1] http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Wishlist [2] "It is packaged in the PackMan repository but not directly in OpenSuse" - one particular quote.
cheers
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