Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-programming (60 mails)

[George Stoianov <gstoyanoff@xxxxxxxxx>]

I have used Java for 3 years know mainly web
development with databases.

If you are not into IDEs -
Netbeans/JEdit/XCoral/Eclipse etc you can try Kate
(KDE) it has everything I have ever need for Java. You
can of course right your own compiliation and
deployment scripts which would come standard in the
IDE but you are free to use any directory structure
you like.

I find that using the SuSE packages of late 10.0 and
10.1 is pretty adequate for my needs and I get the
latest updates through the os update mechanism which
is convinient. There are warnings out there not to use
the sun jvm and go open source and for the most part
they are valid unless you want to make money from java
and some of the prepackaged libraries from sun that
are used in most places. The ASF project is really
central to a lot of leading open source/commercial
offerings in the Java space www.apache.org another
place for cool java things is www.java-source.net and
of course freshmeat.net . The is a free downloadable
book from Bruce Perens about open source java which is
really nice and talks about the apache commons java
projects.

Java is really nice, but it takes a lot more time and
understanding to rip full benefits compared to
something that gets you doing stuff right away, like
Python, VB or ASP for example, at least it did to me
:).

Good luck.
George


--- Chris verBurg <chris.verburg@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> > and AMD runs faster than Intel
> 
> You know it!!  :)
> 
> -Chris verBurg
> 
> 
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, Chuck Davis wrote:
> 
> > Jerry:
> >
> > I do a lot of Java development.  Here's my advice.
> >
> > Go to www.java.sun.com and get the latest version
> of Java.  It is
> > really convenient to get the binary rpm.  It will
> install itself into
> > /usr/java so you need to be root user to install. 
> Change your PATH
> > variable to put /usr/java/jdk1.5.0_07/bin ahead of
> what's there.
> >
> > Then head to www.netbeans.org and get the latest
> daily build of NB5.5
> > or 6.0.  Or if you want only the stable version it
> will be 5.0 (quite
> > antiquated).  Anyway, get the version you want. 
> If you get 5.5 it
> > will even install an icon on your desktop (KDE) to
> make things that
> > much easier.  It is nice to see NB is showing up
> on the YOU updates at
> > this point albeit always behind the curve.  Don't
> waste time on
> > Eclipse unless you want, as they say, "Plug-in
> hell" before you can do
> > anything useful.  NB works "out of the box".  Mono
> is a colossal waste
> > of effort since it is merely a poorly done copy of
> Microsoft branded
> > Java.
> >
> > The final download should be the Java Tutorial
> which you will also
> > find at the java site above.  It explains the
> language features, etc.
> > And, if I were you, I'd plan never to go back to
> any of the others
> > you've mentioned.  There's something about Java
> that gets under your
> > skin and makes you just keep scratching the itch! 
> :)  I've done
> > COBOL, RPG and a little C/C++ in a previous life. 
> I'm sticking with
> > Java.  Be warned, however, that Java does take
> resources.  1G of
> > memory is really the min required for performance
> and the faster your
> > chip the better you'll like Java -- it really
> needs at least a 2.0 CPU
> > (3.2 is better) and AMD runs faster than Intel;  
> more is always
> > better.
> >
> > Have a lot of fun!
> >
> > Chuck Davis
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/24/06, Jerry Westrick <jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >> Hello to all...
> >> 
> >> I'm starting a small project in JAVA, just to
> gather a little experience
> >> with it.
> >> 
> >> The project I picked is a FIX
> (http://www.fixprotocol.org) message viewer.
> >> It's comething that I think can be used, and a
> topic I have lots of
> >> experience
> >> with, so that I can consentrate on the JAVA.
> >> 
> >> I'm using SUSE 10.1 as development platform.
> >> 
> >> I have extensive experience in programming
> (COBOL, PL/I, 360 Assembler,
> >> C/C++,
> >> Smalltalk, Prolog, Perl, Python,  just mention a
> few) and feel it's time I
> >> did a little JAVA.
> >> 
> >> So anyone have tips, and gotchas I should watch
> out for?
> >> Suggestions for how to get into a workbench with
> little effort?
> >> 
> >> Thx. for your help
> >> Jerry
> >> 
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