Forgot to CC opensuse-packaging ML. Hi, Joachim, Can we submit npm w/ all its dependencies and related tools like gyp to Factory before Beta? npm is now a separate package, thus the nodejs in Factory is now not able to build anything nodejs. But there're packages in Factory seem to rely on npm to build. So we now face a mut-be-done choice: 1. fix the packages in Factory by the "manual copy" method to avoid using of npm 2. drop the packages (and even nodejs itself) from Factory, guide our users to use d:l:nodejs to develop their nodejs applications. 3. submit the splitted stuff to Factory, which will be ?50 packages, before Beta. BTW, I don't like the "manual copy" method, which is: 1. changeable over releases (if upstream add new files, your package will success anyway) 2. too much things needed to be judged by human-being (like which one to copy?) 3. it may needs a local test environment for the packager, which will force the packager to be a real nodejs developer. So it'll break our BURP way of packaging. and actually this method can be done by robots like things done by our perl CPAN robots. It undervalues human-being, or even challenges human-being because we are much more easy to get things wrong than a robot. But anyway this way is super fast, we can package 50 packages for one night. Anyway if we want to keep both ways of packaging ("manual copy" && "patch package.json") available, we still need to make a decision whether or not to submit those development tools to Factory. Marguerite