I sent this message to the opensuse list, but the packaging list may be better. I am updating (fresh install) to v12.3. It looks very good so far. However, I am very unhappy with the new texlive packaging. Several reasons. * Very complex and confusing. It is very, very difficult to find out what collections/schemes are needed to get a particular latex package. * Each package has a rpm overhead; it must be downloaded separately; it must be installed separately (whether in a collection or not). Most inefficient and takes far too much time. * The previous packaging provided what I needed out of the box. Now, none of the collections do -- even the collection claimed to be closest to the original one. I have to go find and install some individual ones separately (elsarticle, revtex4; lineno is picked up if I include the 'latexextra' collection). * It is a very long process to remove texlive entirely. I tried with YaST2. Removing collections is not difficult, but there are many font and bin rpms left over with no supervising parent that I can see. Each one requires 2 clicks to delete, with long waits between items. I keep an ascii list of rpms. With about 4000 entries, nearly half are texlive stuff, and it could be worse. There may be some good reasons to try the packaging change. Currently, however, it is not implemented well at all. I hope the next release either restores the previous packaging, or makes huge improvements. Thank you, Joe Comfort -- Joseph Comfort Phone: (480)-965-6377 Physics Department Dept.: (480)-965-3561 Arizona State University Fax: (480)-965-7954 Tempe, AZ 85287-1504 Email: Joseph.Comfort@asu.edu -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org