[opensuse-packaging] Re[3]: Gnome Cinnamon vs KDE

16 Mar 2012

      On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:34, Ralf Lang  wrote:
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Am 16.03.2012 10:08, schrieb Yamaban:
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 04:52, Cristian Rodríguez  wrote:
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On 15/03/12 18:17, Nelson Marques wrote:
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A few users from KDE are having issues with cinnamon (mainly lack of
packages). Is there a way to pass as requires the GNOME pattern?
no, binary packages must not require patterns, only the other way around.
In other words: It would be better to create a "Cinnamon" Pattern?
That or have a look at the Gnome-Shell package and grab the requires
from there?
Can you give a hint about what would be better in your opinion.
Personally I'd like a Cinnamon-Pattern with as little from Gnome3
as feasible and reasonable.
- Thanks, Yamaban.
Doesn't solve the problem. Installing gnome cinnamon needs to trigger the 
dependencies and the pattern must not be triggered by a binary package.
You need to add the requirements to the package.
Maybe I was not clear enough: Facts (please correct if wrong):

1. A Cinnamon-Pattern would be a great help for anybody who'd like to
    install and use cinnamon as DE.

2. A package can be required by a pattern, but not the other way round.

3. Independent of any membership in a pattern a package is required to
    have the needed "Require:" entries to make the package usable.

Solution needed in this case:

1. Add the needed, but missing "Require:" entries to the package.

2. Create a new Pattern for Cinnamon as Desktop-Environment.
    (like KDE or Gnome Pattern)

The first makes the package usable for everybody.

The second helps first time users as much as already active
users, as 'installing' this pattern would pull in all the
needed packages to ensure a full use of Cinnamon as DE.

This would ensure the availability of Cinnamon as DE the same
way as LXDE, XFCE, KDE4, Gnome3, or at least pull up to
Windowmaker, FVWM, TWM, Mate, Razor-Qt or similar.

Please do not take this as a put-down or flame.
It's meant to show a way to maximum ease of use and least
hassle for the end-user.
(Sadly not for the packager the first time.)

This are my personal 2ct.
   - Yamaban.