Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-packaging (142 mails)

[Takashi Iwai <tiwai@xxxxxxx>]

At Wed, 30 Nov 2011 13:55:14 +0100,
Thomas Schraitle wrote:
> Hi,
>
> over the years, I've collected a bunch of great fonts in my home
> repository. However, it seems we don't have a consistent naming schema
> for fonts. 
> Although the Packaging Guidelines[1] links to the old Wiki[2], the
> information therein is printed in red and I'm not sure how useful is
> this nowadays.
>
> This has some interesting effects. If you search for fonts like this:
>
>  # zypper se font
>
> you will get _some_ but not all. For example, the popular Linux
> Libertine and DejaVu fonts are not listed. A user has to _know_ the
> name. IMHO this is not very intuitive and userfriendly. 

True.  (Though, this reminds me whether any possibility to search for
RPM group...)

> On the other side, we have lots of fonts which are very inconsistently
> named. Here are some examples:
>
>   farsifonts
>   fonts-arabic
>   freefont
>   gnu-unifont
>   indic-fonts
>   intlfonts-ttf
>   xorg-x11-fonts
>
> From a usability perspective, it would be very convenient to have a
> consistent naming schema with a specific prefix (or suffix), for
> example a "-fonts" suffix.
>
> Ubuntu has the prefix "ttf-" for their packages:
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=natty&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=ttf
>
> Fedora has the suffix "-fonts" for their packages:
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/list/*-fonts*?_csrf_token=b2721571e462ba9a4dbb87068cad45089ec9dc43

Note that ttf- and -fonts aren't identical.  For example, gnu-unifont
definitely can't be renamed as ttf-gnu-unifont.
If we group only "fonts", then -fonts suffix might make more sense.
But, this doesn't mean it's better than giving ttf- prefix.  It'll
match with older bitmap fonts that user doesn't always want.

And, adding -fonts to a package like gun-unifont would be strange.
gnu-unifont-fonts?  In most cases, prefixing would be better IMO.

So, we need to make clear:
- whether we group all fonts or only specific types (ttf, bitmap, etc);
  if we name for ttf, what we should do for otf?
- whether to give a prefix or a suffix

> Another issue: Do we have a special repository dedicated only to fonts?
> I couldn't find any... Do you think this is useful?

Until now, fonts packages are put in M17N project in general.
Moving around would be OK, but we need the proper notification.


thanks,

Takashi
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