On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:10:25AM +0100, Pascal Bleser wrote:
On 2010-11-11 12:05:11 (+0100), Petr Uzel
wrote: I think your definition of utilities is fine:
<quote> Supposedly "small" command-line utilities that don't really fit any other category (server, monitoring, web, irc, ...) </quote>
This itself does not differentiate it from Base:System - I think it is best to decide on case-by-case basis which project is better.
But now I'm still lacking a proper definition/differenciator for Base:System.
As an example, less is definitely something that should be shipped with every "base system", nevermind how small it is, so what should go into Base:System and what into utilities ?
I'm not just asking for me, because I'm sure that question will come up quite often and needs to be clarified soonish.
Maybe it is totally clear what the difference is, or what the exact purpose of Base:system is to.. dunno, coolo, Adrian, AJ and darix, and apparently to you too but... not to me :\
Frankly, no, I don't have any clear and universal definition of Base:System / utilities packages that would work as proper differentiator for all packages (if anybody has, it would certainly help, but honestly I doubt there could be any clear/universal definition). I think I should at least try to be constructive, so, what about something along these lines (for Base:System): "Set of packages that are necessary to boot and run default minimalistic installation on typical system". Obvious exception is kernel - I believe there is a good reason why it is not in Base:System. Certainly there are more, so case-by-case decisions and common sense still needed. Sorry, I don't have anything better :)
I made a _link from devel:languages:perl to utilities as well.
It is on its way to Factory already. So we can later delete the link.
Hmm.. why Factory? /me confused
Because I would like to have ack (actually all the packages I mentioned before) in Factory. So perl-File-Next has to be there as well. Once it is in factory, the _link in utilities is no longer needed. Sorry if I wasn't clear before.
The primary project for perl-File-Next is devel:languages:perl I added a _link utilities -> devel:languages:perl for that package, to have it there as well as it is a dependency of ack. Now, why do you mention Factory? :)
Regards, Petr -- Petr Uzel IRC: ptr_uzl @ freenode