Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-packaging (220 mails)

[Jean Delvare <jdelvare@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Stephan,

Le vendredi 25 septembre 2009, Stephan Kulow a écrit :
> Am Freitag 25 September 2009 schrieb Johannes Meixner:
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Sep 24 17:31 Stephan Kulow wrote (shortened):
> > > * We create openSUSE:Factory:Devel as a pool of
> > >  packages with single maintainers, maintainers
> > >  can move their packages their if they do not
> > >  feel they belong in any specific group. In
> > >  there you only maintain your package, not the
> > >  rest.

First of all, I agree with your initial analysis that the current
model doesn't make sense for all packages.

> > What exactly is meant with "you only maintain"?
> >
> > Is it meant as a kind of habit, i.e.
> > "in openSUSE:Factory:Devel you are obliged
> >   to maintain only your package, not any
> >   other packages in openSUSE:Factory:Devel"
> > or is it meant as something which is enforced
> > by the Build Service, i.e.
> > "only you can maintain your package(s)
> >   (i.e. accept submit requests and so on)
> >   not other people in openSUSE:Factory:Devel
> >   can do this"
> > ?
>
> > If you mean the latter, what happens when there is a severe
> > issue with a package but its "single maintainer" is not
> > available for some time (e.g. is on vacation or whatever)?
>
> Right now devel projects are setup all or nothing. If you have
> a package in it, you became maintainer for all other packages.
> For many projects this works very fine (Publishing, Base:System, 
> GNOME, KDE, perl - just to name a few). For others it doesn't
> (devel:libraries:c_c++ is my favorite "no group feeling" project).

I beg to disagree for Base:System. It was the first example that came
to my mind as a "no group feeling" project. I have 3 packages I
maintain in Base:System (dmidecode, sensors, i2c-tools) and I was
forcibly subscribed to a list where I receive submit requests and
answers for all other packages of Base:System.

The fact is that Base:System is big and I don't care about what
happens to all the other packages there. I do not have any interest
in following them _and_ I definitely do not have the time either.

I believe it would have been saner to let people ask for separate
devel projects where they felt the need, rather than forcing all
packages to belong to a group as was done.

If you think there really is room for a Base:System project with
a group feeling, then maybe this means that it should be shrunk to
a much smaller project only containing the real base system, rather
than being a default container with packages with no other obvious
home, as it the case right now IMHO.

> So what I'm proposing is to create a place where you can put 
> your package if you don't feel connected to any group - technically
> for that package. And this group I would setup so that everyone
> decides for his package, who maintains it (this doesn't mean it's
> a single person).

Sounds like a very good idea to me.

-- 
Jean Delvare
Suse L3
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