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Re: [opensuse-packaging] Import of Fedora Packaging Guidelines
  • From: Pavol Rusnak <prusnak@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:16:27 +0200
  • Message-id: <4A4F481B.5010109@xxxxxxx>
Cristian Morales Vega wrote:
I'm also pretty neutral... if I would need to select one I would vote
to not use games suffix, if only to follow Fedora.
The only problem is that since you ;-) asked me to use the games
suffix (http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-packaging/2008-07/msg00048.html)

I just wrote the recommendation based on mine observation that most of
the packages use /usr/games and I wanted to maintain consistency. This
is not true anymore (I think it's around 60%:40% now) and therefore I'm
OK with changing all to /usr/bin if we will agree on that.

I have always been using it and it seems the packages from the games
repo really use it most of the time. If we are going to change it
better now than later, but we have a good quantity of packages already
using games.

Changing the paths in all games packages should be a few minutes task.

After all... I would vote to not use the games suffix, I don't think
games are so special. Even if I just asked two days ago to a submitreq
to use the suffix :-p The current games will change with time, there
is no hurry.
I put Toni CC since Packman also has a lot of games, most from him,
and he may have something to say.


- The OpenGL Wrapper part can be removed.
We have opengl-games-utils package in games, so we could probably follow
this point, but I'm not sure whether it is worth it. I just added the
check to Game Store[1], where it makes sense, because the user cannot
see the console output.

[1] http://stick.gk2.sk/blog/2009/07/gamestore/

Being a nVidia user without problems to install the propietary driver
my view could be biased, but I don't really see much need for it.
There are still problems when trying to use 3D games at the same time
than a compositing window manager with other drivers?
But sure, if the package is already there it could be used. If Fedora
uses it I suppose false positives aren't a problem.

I think that reason for the wrapper is not only to inform the user about
the problem, but also to create a pressure from users to graphic cards
vendors. The actual wording is:

"""
Your system currently is not capable of hardware accelerated 3D.
Therefore $1 cannot run.

Usually the cause of this error is that there are no Free Software
drivers for your graphics card, please contact your graphics card
manufacturer and kindly ask them to provide Free Software support for
your card.
"""

:-) ... and btw. this wrapper only gets executed ONLY if the game is run
from the .desktop file.

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openSUSE Community Multiplier Team Lihovarska 1060/12
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