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Re: [opensuse-packaging] PulseAudio plans for suse 11.0
- From: Will Stephenson <wstephenson@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:51:23 +0100
- Message-id: <200803131151.23813.wstephenson@xxxxxxx>
On Thursday 13 March 2008, Adrian Schröter said:
Nobody answered my questions back then, so I just forgot about it. My stance
is still the same - it seems to be nice soundserver upgrade for Gnome.
My opinion on PulseAudio for KDE is the same as Adrian's but with less
winking; unless it's wrong I don't see a need to support PA in KDE:
AFAICS the only material advantage of a sound server is to get software mixing
on crappy hardware, but given the relative scarcity of sufficiently crappy
hardware, I feel this is outweighed by the hassle of having an extra daemon
and all the associated config and infrastructure hanging around.
On that basis I hope that PA changes to openSUSE will remain inside the
gnome-session boundary, and that Gnome apps running outside a Gnome session
will have a way to start the PA daemon on demand (as KDE apps did with
arts*).
Will
* And I gladly bequeath them the "$DESKTOP project is bloated, $DESKTOP-$APP
starts X daemons alongside when I run it in $WM" crowd who plagued KDE 3.
--
Desktop Engineer
KDE Team
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I'm not against PulseAudio. But before patching packages like general
rule we should know the KDE Team posture about it. If it still is the
"it's just a Gnome thing" from
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-11/msg00175.html the
only packages that should be touched are the ones that the Gnome Team
is already touching:
http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Ideas/11.0/PulseAudio
It is no problem to support a Phonon Pulseaudio plugin, but from my opinion
it would be just unneeded overhead by default for the average user. KDE
learned from the past and does not rely on any implementation like arts,
pulseaudio, gstreamer, nmm, .... anymore ;)
If you want to convince others to use pulseaudio also for KDE, you may want
to write a plugin ;)
Btw, is pulseaudio also supporting video ? Because Phonon is also the video
interface for KDE now.
Nobody answered my questions back then, so I just forgot about it. My stance
is still the same - it seems to be nice soundserver upgrade for Gnome.
My opinion on PulseAudio for KDE is the same as Adrian's but with less
winking; unless it's wrong I don't see a need to support PA in KDE:
AFAICS the only material advantage of a sound server is to get software mixing
on crappy hardware, but given the relative scarcity of sufficiently crappy
hardware, I feel this is outweighed by the hassle of having an extra daemon
and all the associated config and infrastructure hanging around.
On that basis I hope that PA changes to openSUSE will remain inside the
gnome-session boundary, and that Gnome apps running outside a Gnome session
will have a way to start the PA daemon on demand (as KDE apps did with
arts*).
Will
* And I gladly bequeath them the "$DESKTOP project is bloated, $DESKTOP-$APP
starts X daemons alongside when I run it in $WM" crowd who plagued KDE 3.
--
Desktop Engineer
KDE Team
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