Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-packaging (139 mails)

[Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 17:45 +0100, Christian Morales Vega wrote:
> 2008/3/12, Marcus Rueckert:
> > On 2008-03-12 16:39:32 +0100, Jan Matejek wrote:
> >  > phonon - um, not really?
> >  > a) isn't phonon somehow limited to KDE4-based stuff?
> >  > b) how about legacy applications? (pulse has pulse-oss or whatever it's
> >  > called)
> >
> >
> > and pulse-oss will not fail as horrible as aoss did?
> >
> >
> >  > - - how about "every soundcard plays all the sound" ? or precise control
> >  > of sources/sinks in GUI *and* real-time - let's say i want music to run
> >  > through my high-end audiophiliac soundcard and stupid icq notification
> >  > sounds through the built-in piece-of-crud AC97 into tiny speakers in my
> >  > display? or something
> >  > (yes, phonon is supposed to do that as well, see above)
> >
> >
> > actually all the features except network transparency belong into alsa.
> >
> >  and realtime through some suid binary is not really a good plan in first
> >  place.
> >
> >  just my 2 cents
> >
> >     darix
> >
> >
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> In any case what openSUSE will do is something must be cleared.
> For what I understood Gnome is going to use PulseAudio yes or yes.
> Upstream will port their apps to PulseAudio and openSUSE can't patch
> all of them, correct?
GNOME apps don't need to be ported, using gstreamer directly, so they
get pulseaudio or not depending on the setup, but apps don't need to
deal with that

> GStreamer, xine... they can't have a default output for KDE and
> another one for Gnome. KDE4 will use Phonon, that can use xine or
> gstreamer like backend. Will KDE4 apps use PulseAudio when Phonon uses
> gstreamer and ALSA directly when Phonon uses xine? In the first case
> apps will have *two* per application volume controls (Phonon and
> PulseAudio)?
> Without a clear path this could be very confusing.
yeah, it is indeed very confusing, so if KDE4 apps use gstreamer, they
would be using pulseaudio when it is running, so KDE would do

app->phonon->gstreamer->pulseaudio

in that case :-(
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Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo@xxxxxxxxxx>
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