Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-packaging (139 mails)

[Jan Matejek <jmatejek@xxxxxxx>]

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Christian Morales Vega napsal(a):
> 2008/3/11, Wade Berrier <wberrier@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >  On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 23:19 +0100, Adrian Schröter wrote:
> >  > On Tuesday 11 March 2008 19:17:47 wrote Wade Berrier:
> >  > > Hi,
> >  > >
> >  > > I know that PulseAudio is going to be the default sound server for
> >  > > Gnome.  Will it also be for KDE (or better yet, is it going to be a
> >  > > distribution wide sound server?)
> >  >
> >  > I can not tell what is planned, but we were happy to get rid of any extra
> >  > server process some years ago, because it can hurt sometimes and is not
> >  > needed anymore, what means it is just overhead (because either alsa does
> >  > mixing or hardware itself).
> >  >
> >  > > The reason I ask is because it would be great if all packages in the
> >  > > distro were pre-configured to work against pulseaudio.  That way no
> >  > > matter what desktop environment you're using, sound will just work for
> >  > > all apps.
> >  >
> >  > well, it should be no problem if some apps use direct alsa and if some 
> > other
> >  > app gets started later what uses pulseaudio. At least as long pulseaudio
> >  > daemon gets started automatically (I see no reason why it should run 
> > always)
> >  > and pulseaudio itself is using alsa as well.
> >
> >
> > The idea would be to have pulseaudio go stright to hw:0, and not use
> >  dmix for either pulseaudio, or anything else.  That way the dmix issues
> >  can be avoided, and all the cool features of pulse can be used.
> >  Currently, I must stop pulseaudio to run this app, reconfigure alsa to
> >  run that app, etc...
> What issues dmix has? You don't need to configure it manually anymore,
> and the classic "mixing should be done in kernel" complain isn't
> "solved" by PulseAudio.
>
> Also, would be good to know exactly what are the cool features of
> PulseAudio that ALSA hasn't.
> - Network transparency? Yes, it's cool, but will not be so much used.
> - Per application volumen control? Isn't Phonon going to give us the same?
> - ?

phonon - um, not really?
a) isn't phonon somehow limited to KDE4-based stuff?
b) how about legacy applications? (pulse has pulse-oss or whatever it's
called)

- - how about "every soundcard plays all the sound" ? or precise control
of sources/sinks in GUI *and* real-time - let's say i want music to run
through my high-end audiophiliac soundcard and stupid icq notification
sounds through the built-in piece-of-crud AC97 into tiny speakers in my
display? or something
(yes, phonon is supposed to do that as well, see above)

regards,
m.

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