November 2005 - openSUSE Packaging - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Announcement: tools for web developers (tidy, mod_tidy, w3c markup validator)
by Sierk Bornemann 02 Dec '05

02 Dec '05

Hi! I am primary a web developer, and my interest is very high, that the popular SUSE Linux offers tools to make a (web-)developer's life easier. Fedora has an eye on developers, also Debian. Why not also SUSE? Making the openSUSE platform interesting for developers more than ever before? Since month, I build my own RPMs of tidy (http://tidy.sourceforge.net) and mod_tidy (http://mod-tidy.sourceforge.net/), which both have been also taken as a basis for SuSEs current tidy packages on ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/apache/tidy/ and mod_tidy packages on ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/apache/apache-mod_tidy/. Unfortunately, SUSEs official packages are not updated so regulary, as I wish they could be, so I want to point to my resources on http://sierkbornemann.de/pub/tools/tidy/ and http://sierkbornemann.de/pub/tools/mod_tidy/, where I store much more up-to-date RPMs for SUSE Linux. The mod_tidy packages, recently shipped with SUSE Linux 10 are outdated. Since I have overtaken the project, some important things have been changed (updated License, updated code, etc.). These URLs on my personal site are still inofficial (for developers only). I hope, that in long time view the official SuSE resources get in sync with wether my packages, which try to be as close and up-to-date as possible to the original, or with the official resources. Since several weeks, I also offer the official W3C Markup Validator of http://validator.w3.org/ as a RPM for SUSE Linux. These packages are still located on http://sierkbornemann.de/pub/tools/w3c-markup-validator/. As it happened with my tidy and mod_tidy packages, I hope, my w3c validator packages will be copyied to one of SUSEs FTP-Servers and offered from there to the public (here again, I want to keep the traffic to my server in a reasonable limit, that's because I hope, that somebody of Novell/SuSE gives them a place on a public SuSE FTP server). Concerning the W3C Markup Validator, I went on optimizing it for local use (the W3C developers themselves have an eye on it and made a lot of adjustments). It's easy to install and configurate. Hints for improvements are welcome (this belongs to the validator as to tidy and to mod_tidy). For the near future, I aim SUSE Linux packages of the W3C Validator to be also mentioned on http://validator.w3.org/source/ (besides Fedora and Debian packages). I have strong encouragement from the Validator Dev team in continuing so. and I still hope, Novell/SUSE is able to give me more official assistance (minimum: updating more frequently the packages taken from me). So, have a look into my packages, try them out. Any help for improvements and advocacy is welcome. Sierk Bornemann Sierk Bornemann | Hannover | Germany e-mail: sierkb(a)gmx.de URL: http://sierkbornemann.de/

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Patch RPM's and the -P option
by Scott Lowrey 02 Dec '05

02 Dec '05

The rpm command on SuSE 9.1 and 9.3 provides a patch select option (-P, --patches). I have not had a chance to review rpm on OpenSUSE, yet but will be doing that soon, so apologies if this message appears to be a bit misdirected - it's not. :-) Anyway, I'm guessing that a patch RPM is a "partial package" that does not contain all files, instead providing only the files that have been updated? If I issue the "rpm -qPa" command, I see a small subset of RPMs - notably, those that appear to have been applied as part of an online update. The Red Hat/Fedora/rpm.org guides and the master RPM change list do not document a -P option. Can someone give me some background? Is this a SuSE creation? What distinguishes a patch RPM from a regular RPM? I do know that any RPM can be considered a "patch" or "update", but I have a need to track RPMs that have been specifically applied in response to customer problem reports - this feature seems to meet that need. Thanks for your help. -Scott Lowrey

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Buggy binutils package on 10.0
by Pascal Bleser 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The binutils on 10.0 has a bug, it doesn't work well when using gcc 3.3.x or 3.4.x When using the latest binutils (2.16.1, compiled from source) it works, but when using the binutils package shipped with SL 10.0 (2.16.91.0.2-8), I get the following when building shared libs: `.L631' referenced in section `.rodata' of build/linux26-gcc344-ora920-d/carma/otl_result_set.os: defined in discarded section `.gnu.linkonce.t._Z17otl_var_type_namei' of build/linux26-gcc344-ora920-d/carma/otl_result_set.os `.L612' referenced in section `.rodata' of build/linux26-gcc344-ora920-d/carma/otl_result_set.os: defined in discarded section `.gnu.linkonce.t._Z17otl_var_type_namei' of build/linux26-gcc344-ora920-d/carma/otl_result_set.os `.L613' referenced in section `.rodata' of build/linux26-gcc344-ora920-d/carma/otl_result_set.os: defined in discarded section `.gnu.linkonce.t._Z17otl_var_type_namei' of etc.. etc... I've been googling on that, and it definately seems to be a binutils bug. The gcc src.rpm shipped with SL 10.0 includes some patches, one of which might be a workaround for that binutils issue, but I cannot apply it to 3.4.x (and I definately need 3.4.x in this case). Now, with that background and while you're already replying "this is off-topic" ;)), I wanted to ask if anyone was already providing newer binutils packages in his repository ? I'll file a bug for this anyway but I'll most probably try to isolate a backport patch for this very issue. cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <pascal.bleser(a)skynet.be> <guru(a)unixtech.be> _\_v FOSDEM 2006 -- 25+26 February 2006 in Brussels -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDiyKOr3NMWliFcXcRAjrPAKCzmpvT//awy7PUSgD3KVTcBLX8IwCfa+hB 2ba2ZiPUN+ZCgTcX3y/KbOc= =3S2G -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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suser-guru updates
by Pascal Bleser 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I didn't do for a while.. here's a list of new packages in my repository (and a few updates I think I didn't mention yet) kde3-windeco-flatknifty flatknifty windeco for KDE3 kwin-decor-suse2 suse2 windeco for KDE3 kde3-style-lipstik lipstik style for KDE3 kde3-style-klearlook klearlook style for KDE3 kbfx kicker button replacement for KDE3 enca encoding converter and guesser olive console RSS reader colorscheme color scheme creation tool for GNOME basket note/url/text organizer for KDE3 kftpgrabber ftp client for KDE3 wavemixer multi-track sound file mixer (GTK2) librasc library for pulling sound samples remotely, used by wavemixer xmms-agent KDE3 systray for xmms kasablanca ftp client for KDE3 kflickr-mt kflickr (flickr client for KDE3) fork qiv quick image viewer xprintidle small tool that uses XSS xorg extension to show user idle time mguesser file encoding and charset guesser gcfilms movie collection management (GNOME) perl-dbd-sqlite Perl::DBI driver for SQLite3 perl-config-yaml Perl::Config::Yaml module perl-curses-ui Perl::Curses::UI module python-pexpect expect module for Python cutmp3 MP3 file cutter httping ping for HTTP protocol mrxvt multi-tab rxvt port codeblocks C++ IDE libut library for writing daemons If you notice any conflict with something you maintain yourself, please let me know and we'll sort it out, no reason to duplicate work. This is really starting to grow and I get the feeling that using the mailing-list for this isn't really appropriate. Maybe we should have a page on the wiki that lists *ALL* the packages we maintain, by repository. Could help avoiding packaging something that's already included in another repository. But also extra work of adding new packages to that wiki page (which isn't all that much effort IMHO, and don't complain, I'm the one who'd have the most work ;)). I'll post new versions of my spec file templates soon, as I revamped them completely, made them simpler and y2pmbuild-ready and they even seem to be ok for some SUSE devs (nicht wahr Marcus? ;P). Have a nice snowy week-end everyone. cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <pascal.bleser(a)skynet.be> <guru(a)unixtech.be> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDiItor3NMWliFcXcRAqoTAKCKUK+i5qpzYfoSQMHUmKWoKgE3NwCgl786 5ZHoxXtoOz+4gq0p6Wt+ZOQ= =lRuS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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suser-guru updates for 2005-11-28
by Pascal Bleser 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 New packages for today (up to now): remake gnu make fork with gdb support and better error messages acpitool cli acpi client cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <pascal.bleser(a)skynet.be> <guru(a)unixtech.be> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDiq0hr3NMWliFcXcRApojAKCT+YHcPG4RRV42Dko+pVoS1wiT2ACgkhal ykhHKnaCjbX2ZyfhCdSanm4= =iNcn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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suser-guru updates 2005-11-28
by Pascal Bleser 27 Nov '05

27 Nov '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 calcurse organizer written with ncurses (console) perl-File-Find-Rule perl-Number-Compare perl-Text-Glob clamtk perl/gtk2 frontend for clamav mcabber console jabber client freetalk jabber cli client kshutdown versatile shutdown app for kde (+ updates) - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <pascal.bleser(a)skynet.be> <guru(a)unixtech.be> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDij+Hr3NMWliFcXcRAu40AJ4pxi+HQfDgpINvFWF8+/jDcd0P1QCfT8Fj 33GJd9r0wOmQsSA6u6HqKJ4= =sq58 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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httrack 3.33.16
by Detlef Reichelt 27 Nov '05

27 Nov '05

Added Package httrack http://packman.links2linux.de/?action=747 Detlef www.die-mafia.de ;)

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Today's php4 YOU update broken (?)
by Pascal Bleser 27 Nov '05

27 Nov '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 (php4 package maintainer in CC:) The Yast Online Update for php4 that came in this morning (for SUSE 10.0) seems to be broken: it makes Apache httpd processes segfault. My guess is that both php4 and apache2-mod_php4 were updated but not the other php4-* packages (such as php4-gettext, which I'm using extensively, and I'm pretty sure that's the one that triggered the segfault). After the online update, I had php4 = 4.4.0-6.2 and apache2-mod_php4 = 4.4.0-6.2 installed but all the other php4-* packages were still at 4.4.0-6. Solution: I downgraded those two packages back to 4.4.0-6 and now it works again: smart install php4=4.4.0-6 apache2-mod_php4=4.4.0-6 cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <pascal.bleser(a)skynet.be> <guru(a)unixtech.be> _\_v FOSDEM 2006 -- 25+26 February 2006 in Brussels -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDhxInr3NMWliFcXcRApfUAJ0TjrTeQDOKlW/ddk2fxVFNrYfWYQCgsCE2 MhnXm2AqMU539TF3pxyySeI= =bM/Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Improving AMSN packaging
by Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) 25 Nov '05

25 Nov '05

Hi Guillermo! I'm new to SUSE and I saw your message on opensuse mailing list about the AMSN CVS package. I've been an old AMSN packager myself, and I've contributed with the project since a long time, so I think I have quite some experience on packaging it. So, I'm sending you my specs and my cvs update script that I've made to Mandriva, so that you can check and see if there is something interesting to get merged into yours. I was thinking about porting my packages into SUSE, but since you've already done it, maybe it's easier if we work together. I also have some old AMSN packages build into Conectiva, and I was thinking about reworking the mandriva packages in quite the same way. You can check them here: ftp://mirror.de9.ime.eb.br/pub/conectiva/contrib/10/conectiva/RPMS.mt/ http://mteixeira.webset.net/pub/amsn/ By the way, those are considered the official AMSN packages for Conectiva (as stated on the AMSN's website). On the CVS version I have all features working, including plugins (even webcam, and traydock) Also you can check my current Mandriva packages here: http://mteixeira.webset.net/pub/cooker-i586/netmask/ Well, I hope we can get along with it! See ya! -- % Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) % mteixeira{a}webset{d}net <> Maceio/AL/BR % TI+Telecom Analyst <> Linux Specialist % http://mteixeira.webset.net <> http://pmping.sf.net % [D0CE 6BD4 526B B7D1 6F4E 85FA A7A0 1A6F B23A A9EE]

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Packaging advice
by David Bolt 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

I've written spec files for a few packages that weren't available for SUSE, purely picked at random, just to see how well I can do at producing packages. The packages I've built successfully build on all SUSE versions from 9.0 to 10.0, although I don't foresee any problems building them on the 10.1 alphas/betas. What I'd like is for someone who's rather more experienced at packaging, which wouldn't take much really, to have a look at the spec files and see if there's anything that could be done to improve things[0]. At present I've copied the spec files and source RPMs to the free web-space provided by my ISP. Unfortunately, due to lack of space, I haven't been able to copy any of the pre-build packages. I would have hosted them on my home server, but that's on the end of a 256Kbps up-link that's presently pretty close to saturation (limited to ~80-90%) due to me keeping the 10.0, 10.0 delta[1] and 10.1alpha2 torrents running. The specs and source RPMs are presently located at: <URL:http://www.davjam.demon.co.uk/srpms/> Any suggestions, hints, tips, criticism, etc. (gratefully?) received. [0] I've already started using "install -D ..." in place of "mkdir -p" and "install ..." although, in some instances, it's failed to work in some instances so I've had to use "mkdir" and "install" [1] Not sure why I've still got the delta torrent still running as there doesn't seem to be many people either sharing or downloading the deltas. Regards, David Bolt -- Member of Team Acorn checking nodes at 50 Mnodes/s: http://www.distributed.net/ AMD1800 1Gb WinXP/SuSE 9.3 | AMD1300 512Mb SuSE 9.0 | AMD2400 256Mb SuSE 9.0 AMD2400 160Mb SuSE 10.0 | Falcon 14Mb TOS 4.02 | STE 4Mb TOS 1.62 RPC600 129Mb RISCOS 3.6 | A3010 4Mb RISCOS 3.11 | A4000 4Mb RISCOS 3.11

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