** I've lived in the real world enough, we're all here because we aint all there ** Hiyas all, I've got an old Turtle Beach card which is making lovely warm sound ... thanxs to a group of guys working on the Au88xx chip card Alsa drivers.. ( This Card is a Monetery ll ) But I want a newer card for this system, and I should so much prefer NOT to have to get a CreativeLabs product. My relationships w/ that company in the past have NOT been happy ones. At the same time, if anyone looks at the Turtle Beach Riviera and Catalina cards, there is so much there for such a small(ish) amount of money. I have talked w/ the tech guys there, and they say they aren't using the Aureal chips any more ( for obvious reasons... Aureal has been bought by Creative <sigh>) Knowing the community, I have to figure *someone* is working or thinking of working on Alsa drivers for these cards. IF they have the usual Turtle Beach sound, and there is no reason they wont, the sound alone would be enough to sell the card, at least to audiophyles ;) The price is more than enough for anyont to give them a look.. the last card in the list apparenly has some drivers somewhere on the site, but , of course, they don't support Linux.. or the drivers.. And I wasn't able to find out if they were Alsa or OSS ( I suspect the tech guys just don't know) I did ask about the sound chip, but evedently the only way to find out what it is would be to buy the card first.. Which IF anyone is actively working on this group of cards I'd certainly consider. Any suggestions as to where or to whom to write would be appreciated. ( I am rather hoping that someone from teh Alsa Group keeps a weather eye on this list , but still, a personal missive couldn't hurt the cause either..) Tia .. -- j -- nemo me impune lacessit it's just an afterthought; okay ? : Vegetarian: Indian word for lousy hunter