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Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE Newspaper Advert
On Tuesday 24 May 2011 23:22:31 Izabel Valverde wrote:
2011/5/24 Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@xxxxxxxxx>:
On Tuesday 24 May 2011 16:23:20 Izabel Valverde wrote:
2011/5/24 jdd <jdd@xxxxxxxxx>

Le 24/05/2011 13:12, Okuro Okiawa a écrit :
Hence, openSUSE has to be presented as an easy and comfortable
solution for your work to take away the "fear" of some people of
"damaging" anything when they touch their OS...

be warned that openSUSE is *not* designed for dummies (no Linux is).
It's nice to be installed to your friend that can ask you for help. I
real newbie will not use openSUSE if not preinstalled and configured.

jdd

Hi jdd,

I strongly disagree with your words or better saying quote! If is not
for dummies how can we explain the success case in elementary schools
or in digital inclusion projects?

If we still defending that linux is not for everyone we always will
live like now with bunch of people with closed mind or worst thinking
that are superior just because run linux or whatever in their own pc.

It's time to change our minds and if you need a close case I can show
you a school full of newbies that make TV, Radio, Publicity and much
more using linux as their base.

We all should think about it... or at least write in a different way ;-)

The thing that is limiting us is not Linux itself. openSUSE is not per-se
harder than Windows. But it doesn't have the vendor support, it doesn't
have the neighboor-next-door who can help and it is unfamiliar. And you
can't easily buy a PC with it. And it is seen as 'different' so if
something goes wrong, you blame linux (while if something goes wrong
with Windows most ppl blame themselves).

So I must consider myself really luck to never had a vendor support or
a neighboor-next-door to work with kids in digital inclusion projects.
I do believe ... the best case.

Again... if we don't change our minds or believes we'll still in the same
path!

In Brazil we can easily buy a PC with linux, sometimes a terrible
distro inside, and you are right about the buyers soon change for
windows and again the words come from them:
"- We are not genius to use linux!" That is exactly what I think we
should change and our words or advertise could for sure help a lot. In
time I'm not a genius either and I use linux!!! (BTW the best one ;-)

It is more of a cultural issue, not a technical one. But that doesn't
change the fact that JDD is indeed right. If linux is to have a chance,
it's gonna be with professionals (the ones we target!) and on
dumbed-down devices like tablets (which the openSLX/KDE/Plasma Active
team is targeting).

Certainly cultural... as people say we brazilians have more hope than
others ;-)

BUT If we are targeting professionals I'm definitely in the wrong
community! Really sorry.
cause as volunteer I'm looking to spread and show the best technical
option to everyone and leaving professionals to big companies to do.
Something to think... Maybe better now...

Izabel

+1

Izabel again totally agree and I am working to launch a range of PC's which
are openSUSE Pre Installed and looking to increase the range of Linux powered
devices included.

I would like to know the biggest hardware gripes we have and then we can
advise people to keep away from them, and also what we know works really well
and again we can do this also.

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Stuart Tanner

Bolton Linux
Delivering openSUSE Retail to the UK

24 Vincent Street
Bolton
BL1 4SA

Tel: +44-1204-410474
Mob: +44-7868-028028

www.bolin.org.uk
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