Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-marketing (281 mails)

[Tony Su <tonysu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

You might find this long running thread in the Tech Help Forums
(Install) interesting

http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot-login/456425-should-developers-release-new-version-11-4-suzy.html

IMO the comments in it are relevant.

1. There might not be a question there is some value here, but the
question is still whether it's worthwhile enough to do "something" and
there's some question exactly what that "something" is (which updates
to include or exclude on such a short cycle).

2. Using Studio or possibly Kiwi, it's actually very simple for
someone to compile minor iterative releases.

As noted in the thread, it's likely pretty easy for someone with
initiative and some effort (probably not much but still has to be
continuous) to do this as a Community (unofficial) project.

Tony



On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 2011-04-11 Drew wrote:
> Drew, ever heard of "tl;dr"? Google it ;-)
>
> In short, this proposal is to have updates to the GM every month or 2.
> It could fit in our current schedule of 12.1 - 12.2 - 12.3 - 13.1 - 13.2
> etc by using another number (12.1.1 etc) or we re-think our numbering
> (but as we've already voted it's too late for that I think).
>
> Anyway, this'll probably see some more discussion on -project. I'm sure
> we all agree it's a good idea, I do :D
>
> The main objection is: someone has to do it. And unless somebody steps
> up, it won't happen.
>
>
> > AN OPEN PROPOSAL ON openSUSE VERSION NUMBERING:
> >
> > I have been giving the openSUSE version numbering issue some serious
> > thought lately. I have come up with an interesting solution to the
> > issue that I would like to propose to the community. I am in no way
> > married to this idea but I do feel it is the best solution out of
> > everything else that has been proposed.
> >
> > The core idea of the model that I am proposing is to have a set of
> > minor number releases within an 8 month major number release cycle.
> > I have outlined my idea to illustrate what I mean by this.
> >
> > 1) Every 8 months we should launch a major version number release.
> > This would be kind of like Fedora does with their number every 6
> > months but ours would be every 8. (e.g. openSUSE 12.0)
> >
> > 2) After launch, we should release a new image(GoldMaster) with the
> > updates/patches applied as a minor version number release, once a
> > month for the next 4 months. This will help people who have not
> > installed the major version release because of a bug to install a
> > minor number release as bugs get patched. Also this will help to
> > denote stability and maturity in the release (e.g. openSUSE 12.1,
> > 12.2, 12.3, 12.4)
> >
> > 3) 2 months from the last minor number  release we should release one
> > more minor number(this will be 6 months from the original release of
> > our major number)… this will mean the x.5 releases of openSUSE will
> > earn a reputation and respect for being very stable (e.g. openSUSE
> > 12.5)
> >
> > 4) After the x.5 release we should not release any more minor number
> > images in preparation for our next major version number launch!
> >
> > I think this model would make our 8 month cycle more competitive
> > while providing a more structured meaning to our version numbering
> > and, more importantly, maintaining an identity of our own.  Also
> > this will show the fast development of our 8 month cycle.
> >
> > Some things to consider before deciding on or implementing this for
> > our project:
> >
> > 1) The increased frequency of version numbering will mean we will
> > have more opportunities to make noise about our distribution in a
> > marketing sense. Also, the transition and change to this model will
> > give use marketing opportunities to ensure the FOSS community knows
> > of the changes before implementation. Keep in mind that more noise
> > means more energy from our marketing team and ambassadors.
> >
> > 2) This is something that CAN be done however, we would need
> > volunteers from the community to help with the added man power it
> > will take to crank out the minor number releases. Though it may take
> > some added effort to achieve this model, we have the infrastructure
> > in place to help facilitate it (OBS, openFATE, Connect, Lizards
> > blogs, Wiki pages, Forums, etc.).
> >
> > 3) The frequency of the minor number releases proposed above is NOT
> > the heart of this proposal. Rather, it is a personal opinion on how
> > the idea of interim(minor number) patched releases within our 8
> > month cycle can look.
> >
> >
> > A NOTE: I know some will have an issue with this thinking that it
> > abandons the 8 month development cycle but in my opinion this
> > enhances it.
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