Am Donnerstag, 10. Februar 2011, 08:08:06 schrieb Bryen M. Yunashko:
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 13:29 +0100, Adrian Schröter wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 10. Februar 2011, 10:18:32 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
On 2011-02-04 Bryen wrote:
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 13:31 +0900, Satoru Matsumoto wrote:
Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
A. We recommend formally changing the name to ""Open Build
Service"
B. We recommend formally changing the name to OBS and allowing
people to use "openSUSE Build Service" or "open Build Service"
as they see fit.
C. Leave it as is - openSUSE Build Service
I vote for B.
Since the words 'openSUSE Build Service' are already all over
the
*.opensuse.org sites, we have to replace *ALL* of them with
'Open
Build
Service' if we change the name.
So, I'd like to ask you, who will vote for A: Are you willing to
replace the words 'openSUSE Build Service' which are already on
whole
*.opensuse.org sites with 'Open Build Service' responsibly?
If the answer is 'No, someone except me should do.', I'm sorry
to
say
you are an irresponsible person. Only if the answer is 'Yes,
I'll
volunteer to do so.', the option A would be a compelling
opinion.
Best,
That's a valid concern. And I just poked someone in the wiki team
to
ask how difficult this challenge would be. From a technical
standpoint,
it's not that difficult to install an extension from mediawiki to
do
mass edits. At the very least, we could produce a list of all
pages
that have that string and a group of us volunteer to go through
pages
one-by-one to clean it up. Obviously this only applies to pages
where
the full "openSUSE Build Service" string exists. Those where OBS
is
only used, no need to worry.
So... I'm volunteering to jump on on the cleanup effort if that's
what
is eventually decided upon.
I remind you all that again, we are only voting on a
recommendation to
give to the OBS team. We're not actually making a decision here.
Thanks,
Bryen
Assuming everyone who didn't reply doesn't have a strong opinion or
isn't
that interested, the conclusion is that we go for option A: Open
Build
Service. Bryen has offered to make sure it all looks good in the
wiki and
other pages.
So, Bryen or Helen - which one of you communicates this to the OBS
people,
tell them the marketing team recommends a name change to Open Build
Service
and will take care of the renaming work on the websites?
Hello ?
OBS is not owned by you people.
You can of course also decide to rename the Linux Kernel, but this is not the way to make this happen.
Adrian,
I think something got lost in this thread. When I redirected this thread to put an ned to the endless discussion, I clearly stated that we can only vote to recommend and that we cannot decide for the OBS team. You and I are on the same page. "We people" don't get to decide for you. We can only recommend and I think that is an important role for the marketing team to express its concerns about any obstacles it has when it attempts to market products under the openSUSE Project umbrella, including OBS. We consider OBS an important product to market to the masses and we do have some concerns, as stated in this thread, about how "openSUSE Build Service" as a name does not convey the true reach of the product. We're all partners here and should feel comfortable about conveying our concerns in an objective way.
Shortly, Helen and I will formulate a formal recommendation statement and we hope the OBS Team will review the recommendation objectively. However, we recognize that the OBS Team is free to accept, reject, or even ignore the recommendation outright.
The point is, also the OBS developer team is not free to decide (I hope this became clear in earlier mails). OBS is a SUSE/Novell product in first place, used also by openSUSE. I am also personal interessted in a name change, but I can't decide this on my own as well. It would be good in any case if would not start on changing the web pages like suggested in the mail before. -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH email: adrian@suse.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org