Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-marketing (208 mails)

[Nelson Marques <nmo.marques@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 December 2010 18:48:20 Nelson Marques wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > > Dear Marketing Masterminds,
> > >
> > > In a few months we have a release. That means there is work to do.
> > >
> > > Take this bug for example:
> > > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=659659
> > >
> > > Yes, we need to come up with a list of top features for the 11.4 release.
> > > This ain't an easy task, taking up a serious amount of time and
> > > discussion. Once it is done, a draft announcement can be made as well as
> > > other things.
> >
> > We need to come with the features? Why isn't this reported to us by
> > the sub-projects?
>
> Because this is The Real World (TM)?
>
> > Example... KDE reports their features, GNOME reports their features,
> > and so on...
>
> Would be lovely. Go and tell them to do it, they will have fun laughing at
> you.

Good it works that way. I will check it out tomorrow on GNOME Team
meeting... I doubt they will laugh on me...

> Ok, serious. Yes, this is what should happen, and in case of KDE and GNOME
> it's possible. Kernel, Xorg - the ppl there are less communicative. The best

So there's a problem... maybe something you should contemplate on strategy.

> way to find the most important features is to digg through the changelogs.
> Laborous work but our best shot. A few ppl can do that in a day, if they work
> hard. That's why I want the meeting.

Since people will laugh on me and won't cooperate, I don't have time
search logs, if they don't care, I for sure won't care either.

> > > To do this, Bryen and me propose to have a meeting in the beginning of
> > > Februari (either shortly before, during or just after FOSDEM).
> >
> > That means we have 1 month (the shorter of the year, February) and
> > barelly 1 week and half. Ain't this too late, considering the first
> > part of your email where we still have to dig the features ?
>
> No, it's late but not too late.
>
> > > A real life meeting, people. A marketing sprint. Now don't start thinking
> > > "but I have a job" or "but I live in India" or "but I'm yellow". Think
> > > "FOSDEM is 5 and 6 feb, if the meeting is 2-4 feb, I could take a few
> > > days off at work and come there". Or "we should do it the weekend before
> > > FOSDEM, that would work for me".
> >
> > Do we have sponsorship for travelling and accommodation?
>
> Most likely yes.
>
> > > Main Goal: fix bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=659659 and
> > > write initial announcement for 11.4; secondairy goals: drink beer, have
> > > fun, get to know each other, work on other things and make grand plans.
> >
> > Sounds easy but not that realistic. From my past experience in other
> > project, feature profiles are a pain and demand more time than a rough
> > month and 2 weeks.
>
> Well I've written plenty of KDE release announcements (or rather, coordinated
> the writing) and while I usually indeed prefer to start 3 months in advance, I
> know it's possible to do it in less time. If you just have the right people in
> the right place... Hence again, the meeting.

Our marketing structure seems to be failing. Maybe a good thing to
take another peek into Fedora and see how they do it and might be a
good idea to duplicate some of their procedures.

> > > Once we have an idea of the plan we will ask that elusive openSUSE
> > > community manager-dude for a budget so we can pay for (part of?!?) the
> > > hotel and travel costs for this sprint.
> > >
> > > So anyone who wants to make a contribution to this (that means mostly
> > > writing!), say so!
> >
> > I'm on GNOME3 interview with Vincent Untz and I'm waiting for 'mrdocs'
> > to answer a small interview as well.
> >
> > > Bryen has set up a wiki page here:
> > > http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:11.4_Marketing_Hackfest
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Jos



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