On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Jos Poortvliet
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 18:48:20 Nelson Marques wrote:
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Jos Poortvliet
wrote: Dear Marketing Masterminds,
In a few months we have a release. That means there is work to do.
Take this bug for example: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=659659
Yes, we need to come up with a list of top features for the 11.4 release. This ain't an easy task, taking up a serious amount of time and discussion. Once it is done, a draft announcement can be made as well as other things.
We need to come with the features? Why isn't this reported to us by the sub-projects?
Because this is The Real World (TM)?
Example... KDE reports their features, GNOME reports their features, and so on...
Would be lovely. Go and tell them to do it, they will have fun laughing at you.
Good it works that way. I will check it out tomorrow on GNOME Team meeting... I doubt they will laugh on me...
Ok, serious. Yes, this is what should happen, and in case of KDE and GNOME it's possible. Kernel, Xorg - the ppl there are less communicative. The best
So there's a problem... maybe something you should contemplate on strategy.
way to find the most important features is to digg through the changelogs. Laborous work but our best shot. A few ppl can do that in a day, if they work hard. That's why I want the meeting.
Since people will laugh on me and won't cooperate, I don't have time search logs, if they don't care, I for sure won't care either.
To do this, Bryen and me propose to have a meeting in the beginning of Februari (either shortly before, during or just after FOSDEM).
That means we have 1 month (the shorter of the year, February) and barelly 1 week and half. Ain't this too late, considering the first part of your email where we still have to dig the features ?
No, it's late but not too late.
A real life meeting, people. A marketing sprint. Now don't start thinking "but I have a job" or "but I live in India" or "but I'm yellow". Think "FOSDEM is 5 and 6 feb, if the meeting is 2-4 feb, I could take a few days off at work and come there". Or "we should do it the weekend before FOSDEM, that would work for me".
Do we have sponsorship for travelling and accommodation?
Most likely yes.
Main Goal: fix bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=659659 and write initial announcement for 11.4; secondairy goals: drink beer, have fun, get to know each other, work on other things and make grand plans.
Sounds easy but not that realistic. From my past experience in other project, feature profiles are a pain and demand more time than a rough month and 2 weeks.
Well I've written plenty of KDE release announcements (or rather, coordinated the writing) and while I usually indeed prefer to start 3 months in advance, I know it's possible to do it in less time. If you just have the right people in the right place... Hence again, the meeting.
Our marketing structure seems to be failing. Maybe a good thing to take another peek into Fedora and see how they do it and might be a good idea to duplicate some of their procedures.
Once we have an idea of the plan we will ask that elusive openSUSE community manager-dude for a budget so we can pay for (part of?!?) the hotel and travel costs for this sprint.
So anyone who wants to make a contribution to this (that means mostly writing!), say so!
I'm on GNOME3 interview with Vincent Untz and I'm waiting for 'mrdocs' to answer a small interview as well.
Bryen has set up a wiki page here: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:11.4_Marketing_Hackfest
Cheers, Jos
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