Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-marketing (169 mails)

[Gerfried Fuchs <rhonda@xxxxxxxxxx>]

        Hi!

* Vincent Untz <vuntz@xxxxxxxxxx> [2010-11-01 20:51:51 CET]:
> Le lundi 01 novembre 2010, à 20:27 +0100, Andreas Jaeger a écrit :
> > On Saturday 30 October 2010 16:59:21 Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 17:01 +0200, S.Kemter wrote:
> > > > Am Samstag 30 Oktober 2010, 15:37:16 schrieb Bryen M. Yunashko:
> > > > > On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 09:47 +0200, jdd wrote:
> > > > > > did you notice this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2010/10/msg00096.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you subscribed to this list or is anyone else here subscribed? 
> > > > > I'd like to have a correction to that posting but don't want to
> > > > > subscribe if i don't have to.  :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > The post associated Vuntz with Ubuntu.   In fact, he's ours, not
> > > > > theirs!  :-)   Can someone correct this?

 From what I can tell, Vincent is his own for a start, if any. :)

> > > > Had a little conversation with Rhonda after he published it, from his
> > > > point of view he has right. So look after planet.ubuntu.com u can
> > > > find there vuntz ;)
> > >
> > > I don't understand.  How does he have the right to say Vuntz represents
> > > Ubuntu?  He's one of our folks.

 I clearified it in my blog entry where I also posted it to:
<http://rhonda.deb.at/blog/debian/report-opensuse.html>

> Right. I was involved in Ubuntu a while ago (2004-2006, I'd say, before
> I chose to focus on GNOME), and I'm still an Ubuntu member. I'm
> following what's happening there, because I have friends in the Ubuntu
> world and because it's important for upstream GNOME.
>
> That being said, I'm much more a GNOME/openSUSE person than a
> Ubuntu/GNOME one (I'm using openSUSE, and I contributed much more to
> openSUSE than to Ubuntu). I guess it's safe to say that I don't
> represent Ubuntu in any way anymore, and I certainly wasn't at the
> openSUSE conference with a Ubuntu hat :-)

 If it would make you lot feel better, I will send the same
clearification to the mailinglist, too. Actually it seems that Vincent
was there with as much Ubuntu hat as myself, or rather, me possibly more
than him because I actually also have upload rights to Ubuntu.

 Still, frankly spoken, I am a fair bit astonished about the claiming
that a person belongs to someone, especially exclusively, especially in
the free software community. Yes, I should have done more research about
Vincent, and I appoligize for not having done that, but the impression
with Vincent's blog on Planet Ubuntu did lead to that, especially since
planet ubuntu is explictly meant for ubuntu related stuff, like can be
read in the Guidelines: <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu>

> If people absolutely want to give me a Ubuntu hat, then I should be
> considered as a GNOME/openSUSE/Ubuntu person. And we could maybe add
> some freedesktop.org stuff in there to be complete ;-)

 Right. I haven't claimed you to be exclusive, especially since I even
stated Ubuntu/GNOME, and such exclusive thinking is in my personal
opinion not really helping the overall though of "Collaboration across
Borders". Actually the sort of responses somehow makes me think that
collaboration might not really be appreciated, but then, this might also
be a as skewed view as which I left with my report from the conference.

> cc'ing Gerfried so he knows about this.

 Thank you very much to give me the chance to explain how it came to
this.

 Enjoy!
Rhonda
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