On 6/28/2010 at 07:38 PM, in message <1277734127.25725.12.camel@bonsai.teegee.firma>, "S.Kemter"
wrote: Hello, As I was explaining earlier, most of the students register as ambassadors mainly for projects, and then they drift off when they get a job. The number of Linux jobs is not as high as on something else, like say Java, Finance sector based jobs, etc. in our part of the world.
I think there isnt a difference between Germany or India. Here do students in her studying time more for FLOSS projects as after it. After that they have jobs and family and spent not more a lot of time for it.
But in her study time they do something and its noticeable. So it cant be that all 30 ambassadors from India are not students anymore. Let it be a third whats with the other 20 ambassadors? There should be more activity or think u not?
Also, piracy is so common that there are people who can autocomplete FCKGW- without stopping for breath. Cyberorg is a hero but most of the others dont spend enough time, once they get a job. I agree, The ambassador list needs a cleanup if they dont have an email address written on the user page.
Sure, think we have to clean up that. On the end I think we need the same solution like fedora has for the ambassadors. They had the same problem with guys from India signed as ambassador only for get an fedoraproject mail address.
The problem is how we sort out the inactive ambassaadors?
There are a lot of differences between students of India and outside. Everything like, currciulum, way of paying the college fee, course duration, choosing a career path (or even college course) etc. are all different than western world. It is a different culture. So we should not compare students of India and Germany. It is almost impossible to decide ways for increasing openSUSE participation by indian students, in a mailling list, imho. May be if we have some kind of openSUSE community manager for the APAC region, working part time on it, we will see some improvements. We did not even sponsor for FOSS.in - the biggest FOSS event in India. RedHat used to bring a lot of people - Alan Cox, Kernel devs., Mairin, GNOME Devs, etc. during earlier editions and now they also reduced, I believe. Currently openSUSE has close to zero participation in FOSS events in India, so the openSUSE related response from India will also be less. There were some initiatives done in the past like NOSIP, GNOME Bangalore but they are not very active anymore imo. The interest of students these days are fading away from Linux programming, towards other technologies like web/mobileapps (and I guess this is observable even in western world), which has higher chance of getting a job/fame etc. and not to forget the opportunity to start a company as well. (I want to get all psychological here and extend this paragraph and write about instant-sucess, elephants-exist-in-domain, impressing-potential-mates etc. but it is irrelevant and so I will cut short). So, in short, my 2 cents: If we want more student participation from India, we definitely cannot come up with a solution on a mailing list discussion(1). We may have to sit on a FOSS conference stall with limited number of stakeholders, and devise some plans and execute them. May be come over for FOSS.in or in OSC10 (if someone from India comes) or GNOME Asia summit or some such event and we can plan a solution for this. We discussing in mailing list in my opinion will just cause long threads and no results. Sankar (1) - From my personal opinion, no useful [non-technical] decision has ever been made in a public mailing lists. They are suitable for just " bike-shedding (2)" (2) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson's_Law_of_Triviality -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org