Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-marketing (185 mails)

[Javier Llorente <javier@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

[gnokii forgot to send it to -marketing. I am also replying to his message]

On Thursday 18 March 2010 14:52:32 you wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 18.03.2010, 14:09 +0100 schrieb Javier Llorente:
> > On Thursday 18 March 2010 12:00:44 S.Kemter wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > > As you may know, Weekly News Team is organizing biweekly regular IRC
> > > > meetings on the #opensuse-newsletter channel on Freenode alternate
> > > > Saturdays 14:30 UTC. However, we couldn't start the meetings for the
> > > > last several months, because only few people were on the channel at
> > > > that time - most of the time there were only Sascha and me. :-(
> > >
> > > Thats a normal reaction of ppl. Because there are to often meetings
> > > with no important things. All what Sascha doing is copy and paste
> > > reminders - so maybe noone more is interested in his announcments.
> > > Because he does the same with other meetings.
> > >
> > > Meetings are important but they should be only when it is really
> > > needed!
> >
> > +1
> >
> > > > I know most of the team members are too busy with their own works to
> > > > attend the meetings and the time for the meeting may not be so
> > > > convenient for everyone. If members were willing to join the meeting
> > > > but happened to be busy at that time, that's not the problem. What I
> > > > am afraid of is, lack of interest.
> > > >
> > > > So, if you think you are a part of the Weekly News Team or want to
> > > > be, I'd like to ask you:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Are you satisfied and having fun with editing/translating Weekly
> > > >    News? In case the answer is not "Yes", please tell us the reason,
> > > > if you can point out.
> > >
> > > Make it sence to translate the OWN? No - For what reason should I read
> > > the german newsletter when there only links to english pages are in?
> > > There would be a easy solution for this problem.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > I would leave English news in English and have a section with news in the
> > corresponding language.
>
> The solution is easier as this. There is a section called "from the
> planet". But which planet? That means actually only the english planet.
>
> But we have more as an english planet, we have a planet in german, in
> spanish, in portuguese and in polish too.
>
> There is a second reason to use this planets to maybe that animate more
> ppl to use them!

+1
Non-English planets should be promoted. 

> > > > 2) Do you have any good ideas, proposals and opinions to make Weekly
> > > >    News much more interesting and attractive both for readers and
> > > >    editors/translators? "It would be interesting at least for me, if
> > > > we ..." is considered a good answer. ;-)
> > >
> > > Sure I have but I dont find it funny to get a answer "this was always
> > > so we dont change it"
> >
> > I propose changing the format. Pligg could be an option to consider.
> > Users (including the oWN staff) would submit news and vote them. The
> > articles with the most votes would appear in the frontpage.
> > See
> > http://www.pligg.com/about.php
> > http://www.pligg.com/demo/
>
> I think interactivity isnt really needed there. When the information are
> good enough in there its enough.
>
> > This would make it more interactive. You could also include videos,
> > polls, etc directly on the frontpage.
>
> I wouldnt use videos and polls in it. There are other tools for it. I
> would change the publishing form for it, its crazy to publish such a
> thing in a wiki.

Pligg is not a wiki ;-)
 
I am not 100% convinced that the wiki is the right format for oWN.

> > > > 3) Is the meeting time - 14:30 UTC alternate Saturdays - convenient
> > > > for you? Over 1 year has passed since we fixed the time, it might be
> > > > good chance to reconsider the better time for meetings. Or, if you
> > > > think we had better discuss topics on another channel such as
> > > > mailinglist, forum, Google Wave, etc., which is unaffected by time,
> > > > please tell us your recommendation.
> > > >
> > > > There might be some opinions like "We should ..." and "We have to
> > > > ...", but I would rather talk with you about how we can enjoy our
> > > > work on Weekly News and provide more interesting and useful
> > > > newsletters to our readers. To make things better and more
> > > > interesting, we always need your help. ;-)
> > >
> > > Thats a little bit a chicken-egg problem. I saw last time often calls
> > > for help from Sascha but I think that does not help.
> > >
> > > I think most ppl are not interested in the OWN because I can all things
> > > read on the planet fresher.
> > > The situation with the newsletter have to be changed first then u get
> > > new ppl because the thing the can work on is a good thing ;)
> >
> > I don't agree.
> > There are news from other sources. So, not everything is on the planet.
> > And not all people read the planet on a daily basis.
>
> yeah Thorsten Lemhuis, the Kernellog good idea really that are things
> that most guys have in her feedreader too and btw Thorsten dont like
> openSUSE ;)
>
> On the end the openSUSE related stuff is not enough ;) There are more
> posts about that out there
>
> > > Change means not to put new sources in, like last time its the same
> > > like read the stories on the planet.
> > > Put in a new picture on the top makes it not better too.
> > >
> > > The content is the key to get readers!
> >
> > +1
>
>  br gnokii

Greetings,
-- 
Javier Llorente