Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-marketing (185 mails)

["S.Kemter" <buergermeister@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Am Donnerstag, den 18.03.2010, 14:14 +0100 schrieb Sascha 'saigkill'
Manns:
> Am Donnerstag, 18. März 2010 12:00:44 wrote S.Kemter:
> > Hello,
> >
> > > As you may know, Weekly News Team is organizing biweekly regular
> > > IRC meetings on the #opensuse-newsletter channel on Freenode
> > > alternate Saturdays 14:30 UTC. However, we couldn't start the
> > > meetings for the last several months, because only few people were
> > > on the channel at that time - most of the time there were only
> > > Sascha and me. :-(
> >
> > Thats a normal reaction of ppl. Because there are to often meetings
> > with no important things. All what Sascha doing is copy and paste
> > reminders - so maybe noone more is interested in his announcments.
> > Because he does the same with other meetings.
> I understand, what you mean. I've seen that the Project-, Wiki and 
> Marketing (at Zonkers time) used the same Text for reminders every time. 
> So i've done this too.

I told u before what others do must not be right! C&P is never right ppl
recognize this and think u are not very interested in this and working
like a machine.
>  
> > Meetings are important but they should be only when it is really
> > needed!
> >
> > > I know most of the team members are too busy with their own works
> > > to attend the meetings and the time for the meeting may not be so
> > > convenient for everyone. If members were willing to join the
> > > meeting but happened to be busy at that time, that's not the
> > > problem. What I am afraid of is, lack of interest.
> > >
> > > So, if you think you are a part of the Weekly News Team or want to
> > > be, I'd like to ask you:
> > >
> > > 1) Are you satisfied and having fun with editing/translating Weekly
> > >
> > >    News? In case the answer is not "Yes", please tell us the
> > >    reason, if you can point out.
> >
> > Make it sence to translate the OWN? No - For what reason should I
> > read the german newsletter when there only links to english pages
> > are in? There would be a easy solution for this problem.
> About that, i must thinking...
>  
> > > 2) Do you have any good ideas, proposals and opinions to make
> > > Weekly
> > >
> > >    News much more interesting and attractive both for readers and
> > >    editors/translators? "It would be interesting at least for me,
> > >    if we ..." is considered a good answer. ;-)
> >
> > Sure I have but I dont find it funny to get a answer "this was always
> > so we dont change it"
> Then please feel free to write your Proposals. ATM we have made our 
> Newsletter like that, what our Survey Reults are.

AJ has a long list with proposals only for the OWN I dont have time
right now for post them all again here.
And many from them I told u before!

> > > 3) Is the meeting time - 14:30 UTC alternate Saturdays - convenient
> > > for
> > >
> > >    you? Over 1 year has passed since we fixed the time, it might be
> > >    good chance to reconsider the better time for meetings. Or, if
> > >    you think we had better discuss topics on another channel such
> > >    as mailinglist, forum, Google Wave, etc., which is unaffected
> > >    by time, please tell us your recommendation.
> > >
> > > There might be some opinions like "We should ..." and "We have to
> > > ...", but I would rather talk with you about how we can enjoy our
> > > work on Weekly News and provide more interesting and useful
> > > newsletters to our readers. To make things better and more
> > > interesting, we always need your help. ;-)
> >
> > Thats a little bit a chicken-egg problem. I saw last time often calls
> > for help from Sascha but I think that does not help.
> The call for Translators was good. I've recieved many Mails fro 
> potencial new Translators. And we have an new Language for translating 
> (Cs).

yeah so translate ^^ Maybe u should call for editors so that there is a
thing for translate.

> > I think most ppl are not interested in the OWN because I can all
> > things read on the planet fresher.
> > The situation with the newsletter have to be changed first then u get
> > new ppl because the thing the can work on is a good thing ;)
> >
> > Change means not to put new sources in, like last time its the same
> > like read the stories on the planet.
> > Put in a new picture on the top makes it not better too.
> >
> > The content is the key to get readers!
> That i think too. So just make proposals. 
> To remove all Articles from the planet is not an good idea, because not 
> every one read the planet regularly. We can't view just from our POV. 
> Not every User read the planet, not every User read the Mailinglists and 
> not every User reads forums.o.o 
> So the Weekly News are for People who doesn't read this. So i publish 
> the Announcement Mail in linux-community and linux.com. So ppl who 
> doesn't read that, they can have an Overview what happens in the last 
> week. And another Point is that through the OWN we place the Name 
> "openSUSE" in the Mind of the readers regularly. 

actually u take more time for spamming fb, twitter, planet, linux.com
and and and that the OWN is out as do them 

br gnokii
> Just my 2 cents :-)
>
> -- 
> Sincerely yours
>
> Sascha Manns                  
> openSUSE Community & Support Agent
> openSUSE Marketing Team
>
> Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com
>
> Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German)
> Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English)


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