Sorry I couldn't attend the meeting, because the time 16:00 UTC is for me 25:00 JST (+9:00) and I had to get up early next morning for my work. I've just read the log of the meeting and have some thoughts about the topics discussed in the meeting. Since Bryen said at the meeting, "Let's continue discussions on these topics via email. I'll write a new thread for each of the topics today", I'd post my thoughts to new threads, however, there is something I want to tell you, marketing team mates, here. There are a lot of "should" and "have to" in our project. Everyone know there are so many things to be done and to be improved all over the project/community. But the biggest problem is always "who can/will do?" If everyone say "I know we should, but unfortunately I don't have enough time to do that. Can anyone do?", nothing won't go forward. If I understand correctly, marketing team aim to promote openSUSE and attract users, developers and contributers to openSUSE. But actually, what motivates the members of marketing team? For me, as I'm just a volunteer and not paid at all, the answer is clear: It's fun to collaborate with others and realize that I can do good for others. The most important "should" is, IMO, "Participating and contributing openSUSE project/community SHOULD be interesting, attractive and fun!" I know some responsibilities are needed for our activities and contributions, however, responsibilities without fun easily make people tired. Although listing the things to be done is important, but I hope everyone in this list will keep in mind, how we can make our work more interesting and fun. So, I wish our further discussions will not end with "OK, what we should do is now clear. Will anyone volunteer for this task? - <<silence>> ...", but continue like "... So, let's put ideas out, how we can make the work more interesting and attractive so that as many persons as possible will participate." ... I wish I haven't bore you with a long mail. ;-) Best, -- _/_/ Satoru Matsumoto - openSUSE Member - Japan _/_/ _/_/ Marketing/Weekly News/openFATE Screening Team _/_/ _/_/ mail: helios_reds_at_gmx.net / irc: HeliosReds _/_/ _/_/ http://blog.geeko.jp/author/heliosreds _/_/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org