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chinput vs. scim [Re: Problem with .xim on SuSE 9.1, Chinese zh_CN.UTF-8, miniChinput]
- From: Marc Waeckerlin <Marc.Waeckerlin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 07:07:29 +0000 (UTC)
- Message-id: <200409060906.54605.Marc.Waeckerlin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
We had this discussion already once some time again. I'd just like stress out
the arguments, why I prefer (mini-)chinput over all other know chinese input
modules. My test of these modules is some time avo, so perhaps they have
become better?
Advantages of chinput:
- No waste of desktop space:
- there is no window, no icon, nothing, as long as I don't enter Chinese
- when I enter Chinese, the size of the windows is minimal
- It offers intelligent Pin-Yin
Problems with chinput:
- font size is too small and font is not selectable (afaik)
- a lot of character positions are empty (missing in font?)
- can't configure ctrl-space to another key combination (afaik)
- can't enter Hiragana, Katakana, Hanja
The most important point for me is that there is no open window as long as I
don't need it, because I use it seldom. - And of course the intelligent Pin
Yin.
Am Samstag, 4. September 2004 19.21 schrieb Mike FABIAN <Mike FABIAN
<mfabian@xxxxxxx>> unter "Re: [m17n] Problem with .xim on SuSE 9.1, Chinese
zh_CN.UTF-8, miniChinput":
> I have never used chinput and there isn't a SuSE package for chinput.
There isn't? I have it. Didn't you promise to add it for SuSE 9.1? - Oh, well
I see, since I am using apt4rpm, I don't always know where packages come
from. The miniChinput package is packed by Thibaut Cousin, so you have to add
tcousin to the /etc/apt/sources.list to install it.
> I don't plan to create a package either as
> the intelligent pinyin module of SCIM has become GPL and will be
> included in SuSE Linux 9.2. So there is really no need for a chinput
> package anymore.
>
> SCIM has become very powerful and can be used to input many languages
> now. SCIM even has built in support for compose and dead keys, with
> most other XIM servers you cannot use neither compose nor dead keys.
I had the problem in KDE that all KDE applications didn't handle ~ or ^ as
long as chinput was running. Other applications, such as xemacs had no
problem. But this problem is now resolved since KDE 3.3.3.
> Therefore SCIM will be the default for Japanese, Korean, and
> Chinese in SuSE Linux 9.2.
One IM for three languages is surely an advantage, I'll have another look at
it, but does it now disappear when it is unused?
Regards
Marc
the arguments, why I prefer (mini-)chinput over all other know chinese input
modules. My test of these modules is some time avo, so perhaps they have
become better?
Advantages of chinput:
- No waste of desktop space:
- there is no window, no icon, nothing, as long as I don't enter Chinese
- when I enter Chinese, the size of the windows is minimal
- It offers intelligent Pin-Yin
Problems with chinput:
- font size is too small and font is not selectable (afaik)
- a lot of character positions are empty (missing in font?)
- can't configure ctrl-space to another key combination (afaik)
- can't enter Hiragana, Katakana, Hanja
The most important point for me is that there is no open window as long as I
don't need it, because I use it seldom. - And of course the intelligent Pin
Yin.
Am Samstag, 4. September 2004 19.21 schrieb Mike FABIAN <Mike FABIAN
<mfabian@xxxxxxx>> unter "Re: [m17n] Problem with .xim on SuSE 9.1, Chinese
zh_CN.UTF-8, miniChinput":
> I have never used chinput and there isn't a SuSE package for chinput.
There isn't? I have it. Didn't you promise to add it for SuSE 9.1? - Oh, well
I see, since I am using apt4rpm, I don't always know where packages come
from. The miniChinput package is packed by Thibaut Cousin, so you have to add
tcousin to the /etc/apt/sources.list to install it.
> I don't plan to create a package either as
> the intelligent pinyin module of SCIM has become GPL and will be
> included in SuSE Linux 9.2. So there is really no need for a chinput
> package anymore.
>
> SCIM has become very powerful and can be used to input many languages
> now. SCIM even has built in support for compose and dead keys, with
> most other XIM servers you cannot use neither compose nor dead keys.
I had the problem in KDE that all KDE applications didn't handle ~ or ^ as
long as chinput was running. Other applications, such as xemacs had no
problem. But this problem is now resolved since KDE 3.3.3.
> Therefore SCIM will be the default for Japanese, Korean, and
> Chinese in SuSE Linux 9.2.
One IM for three languages is surely an advantage, I'll have another look at
it, but does it now disappear when it is unused?
Regards
Marc
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