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Re: [m17n] cjk-latex, bibtex and utf-8
- From: Gerhard Schuck <geschu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 02:17:16 +0000 (UTC)
- Message-id: <200301101137.31426.geschu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Am Donnerstag, 9. Januar 2003 22:18 schrieb Jan Hefti:
> I don't know about jurabib, but I had a similar problem using other
> bibstyles (apalike, plain and dinat). If you use only Japanese, you
> might try the following:
>
> 1. Do not use the begin{CJK[*]}, end{CJK[*]} tags in the bibtex
> entry, but place your \bibliography{somebibfile} command inside a
> CJK[*] environment.
I tried that with a bibtex file containing only one entry with one kanji in
the title field (and the rest Romaji without special characters). That
brought a somewhat better result: latex run didn't stop. But still no
success. Instead of the kanji I get the message "[Please insert
"PrerenderUnicode-" into preamble]". A google search brought the following:
www.unruh.de/DniQ/latex/unicode/content/ucs.ps.gz
or (Text-Version):
http://www.google.co.jp/search?q=cache:ZRL3FBUkVbYC:www.unruh.de/DniQ/latex/unicode/content/ucs.ps.gz+prerenderunicode&hl=ja&ie=UTF-8
I don't exactly understand what I can do with that.
> 2. If you still have trouble (depends on the bibstyle), try using
> Romaji for the author entry. You can eventually work around this
> by using a combination of a romanized key entry and/or replacing
> certain Kanji with the \Unicode{###}{###} command. (Only certain
> characters [in traditional Chinese] need to be replaced in my
> experience, but you might as well replace all of them.)
I used only Romaji for the key and author entries.
> 3. If you still have trouble, it may be caused by bibtex's formatting
> the author, title, etc. I have no idea why, but small capitals
> don't seem to work with certain fonts, even though they have been
> defined in the .fd file. (Maybe my setup is screwed?) In that
> case, you can either modify the bibstyle, try another one, or
> write a script to be called between the bibtex and latex commands
> that modifies your .bbl file.
Perhaps I have to contact the author of jurabib style.
> In case you need Japanese as well as Chinese or Korean, you can place
> the \CJKfamily{somefont} commands in the first item of each entry of the
> .bib file.
Also tried that.
>
> Hope this helps a little (BTW, I would really appreciate any easier
> solutions to 2+3),
> Good luck and best regards,
Thanks very much for your suggestions, which brought me one step further. I
don't need a quick solution for that problem. I just wanted to check out the
possibilty to use japanese bibtex entries.
Best regards
Gerhard Schuck
geschu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> I don't know about jurabib, but I had a similar problem using other
> bibstyles (apalike, plain and dinat). If you use only Japanese, you
> might try the following:
>
> 1. Do not use the begin{CJK[*]}, end{CJK[*]} tags in the bibtex
> entry, but place your \bibliography{somebibfile} command inside a
> CJK[*] environment.
I tried that with a bibtex file containing only one entry with one kanji in
the title field (and the rest Romaji without special characters). That
brought a somewhat better result: latex run didn't stop. But still no
success. Instead of the kanji I get the message "[Please insert
"PrerenderUnicode-" into preamble]". A google search brought the following:
www.unruh.de/DniQ/latex/unicode/content/ucs.ps.gz
or (Text-Version):
http://www.google.co.jp/search?q=cache:ZRL3FBUkVbYC:www.unruh.de/DniQ/latex/unicode/content/ucs.ps.gz+prerenderunicode&hl=ja&ie=UTF-8
I don't exactly understand what I can do with that.
> 2. If you still have trouble (depends on the bibstyle), try using
> Romaji for the author entry. You can eventually work around this
> by using a combination of a romanized key entry and/or replacing
> certain Kanji with the \Unicode{###}{###} command. (Only certain
> characters [in traditional Chinese] need to be replaced in my
> experience, but you might as well replace all of them.)
I used only Romaji for the key and author entries.
> 3. If you still have trouble, it may be caused by bibtex's formatting
> the author, title, etc. I have no idea why, but small capitals
> don't seem to work with certain fonts, even though they have been
> defined in the .fd file. (Maybe my setup is screwed?) In that
> case, you can either modify the bibstyle, try another one, or
> write a script to be called between the bibtex and latex commands
> that modifies your .bbl file.
Perhaps I have to contact the author of jurabib style.
> In case you need Japanese as well as Chinese or Korean, you can place
> the \CJKfamily{somefont} commands in the first item of each entry of the
> .bib file.
Also tried that.
>
> Hope this helps a little (BTW, I would really appreciate any easier
> solutions to 2+3),
> Good luck and best regards,
Thanks very much for your suggestions, which brought me one step further. I
don't need a quick solution for that problem. I just wanted to check out the
possibilty to use japanese bibtex entries.
Best regards
Gerhard Schuck
geschu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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