On 10/28/2014 09:26 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Tue, 28 Oct 2014 10:15:07 -0400, Jeff Mahoney wrote:
On 10/28/14, 6:30 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
Hi,
[maybe this had been already discussed somewhere but I couldn't find it, so...]
What is the plan for (maintenance) updates of openSUSE 13.2 kernel? Will we stick with 3.16.x kernel, or will we upgrade to 3.17.x (and later one, eventually)?
I don't think we've discussed changing anything, so it'd be 3.16.x.
This is a topic that comes up for every release, but it's always brought up *after* the release. If we want to update the kernel version mid-release, that's a topic for discussion but it needs to happen well before release so it's communicated clearly. It's not a topic I've been interested in driving since there are costs and benefits to both sides and the status quo means less work for me. :)
Well, following the stable kernel would be even less work for you :)
Seriously, if we'll keep 3.16.x line, it means essentially that we'll discontinue the maintenance soon after the release, since we won't receive stable kernel backports -- a similar situation like openSUSE 13.1, and it was horrible, IMHO.
Canonical did a pretty good job for this with 3.11 kernel, but we have obviously no such resource to do in a similar way.
That said, if we don't want to fall into the very same pit, I'd vote for following the stable until it hits longtime release.
So, should we have that conversation now for 13.3? The general opensuse list should probably be involved for that.
Definitely.
I have little at stake in this discussion because I am usually running developmental kernels; however, please be careful before adopting Canonical's methods. With their 3.13 kernels (at least), they are backporting API changes from later kernels. For those of us that support out-of-kernel drivers, this is a nightmare. Not only does the source need compiler directives to detect the kernel version, it also needs to check the Ubuntu release information! What a mess!!!!! Larry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+owner@opensuse.org