Actually, this appears to be a problem that has been an increasing pain since I first ran across it in V12.1. The symptoms go a bit like this. When I try to open the screensaver settings from the "Configure Desktop" right-click option, the window opens for a couple of seconds, showing "Loading..." in the screensaver selection area. It will then crash with no visible error and take the entirety of the desktop with it. The only fix I have to hand at that point is to restart the session. If I try to do the same thing from the control centre, it does almost exactly the same thing except that it doesn't take the desktop with it. I suspect the fault is the same one but the fact that the screensaver setup page is embedded in another program means that it doesn't get a chance to kill the desktop. I have now built KDE3 on openSUSE 13.1 four different times, both by overlaying it on KDE4 or building it on a minimal X Window build, and I have used different systems to do it on, though on each occasion this has been on VirtualBox systems. The only other clue I have to hand is that the kio_sysinfo slave comes up with "Process for the sysinfo protocol died unexpectedly" error when I try to use that (which is very annoying and, before anyone says it, NO I do NOT want to use that overstuffed "infocenter" thing!) Any clues? Ta -- Chika -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org