billb@sent.at composed on 2016-02-13 10:10 (UTC-0800):
Bug fixes are unanswered for years, plasmashell crashes for people constantly, there are numerous bugs open about serious problems with Plasma 5 that just sit there,
And there^^ is the core of it all.
That's absolutely true.
To add to it:
Here at opensuse we're often just told to "file a bug with upstream"
But
(1) upstream frequently ask now "why is that feature that used to work important to you at all?", and when user-reasons are given, they're just dismissed. (2) In some cases, the upstream devs are getting literally abusive when these issues are brought up by "just users". (3) Half the time KDE upstream blames Qt-upstream. And they're even worse about responses. (4) When the arguments run out, the answer goes back to "We do this for free, you have no rights to anything" and "fix it yourself".
But "KDE5" is anything but 'stable'. Since KDE4 is abandonded since basically 2015, and KDE5 is unstable.
It's a vicious cycle.
What's our choice anymore?
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