In data sabato 13 febbraio 2016 09:57:59 CET, sdm ha scritto: Hello,
Really what this all boils down to is who controls what. People within the KDE dev team want to have a higher degree of control over their dev
since I'm both part of the openSUSE Community KDE team and also am part of KDE, I've noticed a few factually incorrect assertions here. There is NO KDE dev team. KDE is a do-ocracy: those who do the work, decide. There's no steering committee of any kind. In fact, the KDE e.V. has no power to influence development. Also people involved in Plasma aren't the same involved in the applications, and only marginally the same involved in Frameworks. Most people involved in Plasma aren't even Ubuntu users. They use a combination of Netrunner, Manjaro, Arch, even openSUSE.
SUSE and every other distro that has been around for many years the middle finger and going off in their own direction. We don't need a dev
This is not the case. Several people spoke in defense of openSUSE when people went too far in the maling list, and KDE people who overstepped their bounds were reprimanded (and if they weren't, I'm ensuring they are).
constantly, there are numerous bugs open about serious problems with Plasma 5 that just sit there, and all this when GNOME 3 runs pretty much
There is a serious effort going on triaging bugs (I follow the Plasma ML directly) and on improving the user experience. I suggest you read the posts of Kai Uwe Broulik on PlanetKDE.
just fine. Are we blind to just sit there and let all this happen and not take any actions? I suggest that openSUSE starts looking at
No need for pitchforks. I have spent a lot of the little time I use for openSUSE contribution to foster and improve our relationships with KDE and honestly I'm not allowing all this work to go to waste just because someone gets the wrong idea. Besides, as I said above, there's no need for pitchforks because people are totally getting upset for the *wrong reasons*. We deliver software to users, we don't make the software directly. I think it's better to fix the "supply chain" than breaking everything with a hissy fit. I suggest reading again the Asimov quote I posted.
this news and nothing is changing my opinion about it, and it's very
Facts should, at least. ;)
happening in so many areas, then you have stories coming out about this total Neon turd idea.
Sorry, but as people from KDE helped me to prevent disrespect towards our distribution, there's no need to do the reverse. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: A29D259B