Wolfgang, I've had a chance to try out kate5 from your repositories. It works great, thank you very much for the effort. Including the export of XDG_* variables. Also, looks like kinit is required by most of kf5 apps, file open/save dialogs do not work without it. One suggestion though, I think it would be more convenient to move kf5.sh script to separate package, so it will be possible to use it without installing the whole plasma5-session. In my case, I just downloaded rpm and extracted the script from it without installing, works pretty fine for running kate5 so far. Also, general KF5 question... Many people are stating that KF5 can be used without full plasma5 session, and there were efforts in this direction, including oxygen5. But I was not able to make it work with anything but Qt5 Fusion style. Here is the list of problems I faced, if anyone knows how to resolve them - please tell me: 1. systemsettings5 fonts module cannot be installed without full plasma5 session, and I'm using 6pt font in KDE4 session, which is ignored by oxygen5 completely and default of 9pt is used. 2. systemsettings5 color is similar, for some reason Breeze color theme is used even with oxygen style, and the only way to change it is to replace Breeze.colors file with another color theme. I tried to copy the settings from full plasma5 session, but looks like there is some issue, color theme can be changed but cannot be applied, every record appears twice in configuration files. 3. Similar issue with styles, if Breeze is installed - it will be applied any way, the only way to change to oxygen5 is to uninstall breeze. So, are those known issues or I'm again missing something? On Sunday 12 October 2014 21:43:15 Wolfgang Bauer wrote:
Am Sonntag, 12. Oktober 2014, 21:19:09 schrieb Stanislav Baiduzhyi:
3. I've installed openSUSE 13.1 KDE on VirtualBox, then installed plasma5- session and all the dependencies it wanted, uninstalling kde4 completely. Changed displaymanager to sddm. After rebooting I see plain white screen instead of DM. Autologin was enable, it did not worked, so that's not only graphics issue.
That's probably because the default theme could not be loaded. The default is breeze, included in the package plasma5-workspace. You can change the theme in /etc/sddm.conf, set it to "elarun" e.g. and sddm should work without plasma5-workspace.
Probably some dependency should be added to the sddm package regarding this, or the default changed.
On the internet everyone says that it is possible to have KDE4 and use some kf5-based apps, but I was not able to find a way to do it, so unless there is some magic way to do it which I missed - will have to stay with KDE4.
I maintain a repo on OBS which contains plasma5 packages and the kf5-based apps from KDE:Unstable:Frameworks that do _not_ conflict with KDE4. See here for more details: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2014-09/msg00068.html
In short, add my repo in addition to KDE:Qt5 and KDE:Frameworks5, and select "Switch system packages to the versions in this repository" in YaST or run "zypper dup --from xxx".
The apps are installed to /opt/kf5 so can be installed side-by-side with their KDE4 counterparts. Because of that, you cannot normally run them inside KDE4, but if you install my plasma5-session as well, type this in a Konsole and you can run the KF5 versions afterwards: . /opt/kf5/share/env/kf5.sh
But as I understand it, the "official" packages should work fine in KDE4, but of course you have to uninstall the corresponding KDE4 versions.
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