On Tuesday 18 September 2012 14:27:58 Luca Beltrame wrote:
Thus, I'd argue for cooperation of everyone with their limited time rather than pointing out the differences in employment status and supposed devoted time vs leisure time: united we stand, divided we fall.
Together with Luca, I want to pull the emergency break on this discussion. It seems that this type of heated discussions are becoming a common thing on the opensuse mailinglists and I rather see that we spend this time on something usefull. After reading the full discussion I believe that both Sven and Will brought in some good points. As Sven indicated I also have my doubts if KDE:Distro:Stable is really being used by anybody. It just contains the KDE version that was shipped with the latest openSUSE version and then compiled for all the supported openSUSE version. I doubt that this is really a maintained repo and I would rather see that this repo is replaced with one of the KR:xy repo. The usage of KDF is out of the question for me. This IS and WILL ALWAYS be the development repo to support the KDE version in the next openSUSE release. However if we start utilizing the KR:xy repo's correctly and keep them up-to- date with the monthly minor releases, then KDF doesn't require to be build against the 11.4, 12.1, 12.2 repo's. KDF could just be build against Factory as that this is the one that matters. However as a process we should establish that once the new openSUSE release is announced, we as the community team should indicate what our target is for the KDE release. So for 12.3 we should already now indicate whether we target KDE 4.10 or KDE 4.9.5. Then we eliminate the discussions just before the feature freeze, but have them already early in the process. KUSC has always been the repo where we look forward to the next release of KDE. With it's weekly snapshots it is possible to follow closely the developments on the new KDE Release, but also to react when new packages are defined or when existing packages are split in multiple (last example the move of KDEGAMES to git and being split into about 15 separate packages). Sven is right that people will always tend to spend their time on the area/repo that they are using as that changes there directly affects them. So we should utilize this and make it work for us, instead of seeing it as a bad thing. Maybe it would also be a good idea to assign a kind of coordinator per repo ? (e.g. One for KDF, one for KUSC and one for the KRxy repo's). I know that I haven't been a big help in the area of KDF maintenance, but as Luca indicated all the volunteers have only a certain amount of time that they can spend. I have been focussing on Plymouth and Chromium for 12.2 and tried to keep KUSC as up-to-date as possible, Let's been supportive of eachother !! In the past the KDE community team managed to accomplish a lotand it would be a real shame to see this go to waste. Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org