[opensuse-kde] Re: nothing requires kwin

18 Jun 2012

      On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:58, todd rme  wrote:
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On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 2:00 AM, Felix Miata  wrote:
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On 2012/06/18 01:23 (GMT+0200) Yamaban composed:
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 Felix Miata wrote:
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 set solver.onlyRequires=true
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 How?
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IMHO kdebase4-workspace would be best for "recommend" kwin.
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The kdebase4 package can also be used for running kde-apps under gnome,
the kdebase4-workspace implies the "whole" experience.
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Adding a "Provides" "Windowmanager" to kwin / openbox / wmaker /
what-ever-is-used-by-gnome can be done even now without any harm to
the development / polishing of 12.2, but adding the correspondenting
"Require" "Windowmanager" to the Desktop-Environment packages (here
kdebase4-workspace) is the 'critical' and error-prone part.
IOW, not possible? The subject is about requires, not recommends or
suggests.
The problem is that nothing in KDE requires kwin.  You could use
compiz, openbox, or any other window manager you want instead of kwin.
So in my opinion, and seemingly the opinion of at least several
others, it is simply incorrect to require kwin.
So that leaves 4 options as I see it:
1. Keep things as they are.  I don't think this is a very good approach
2. Have kdebase4-workspace recommend kwin.  That way users by default
install it, but can opt not to.
3. Have kdebase4-workspace suggest kwin.  I am not sure YaST2 even
supports suggests for packages, so this may not help.
4. Have kdebase4-workspace require some window manager, but don't
specify which one.  This is probably not possible until the next
release.
So I would say doing 2 is the best option for 12.2, and we can work on
4 for the release after.
-Todd
Exactly.

Only that the needed "Provides: windowmanager" can be implemented
now (prior 12.2 release) without hurting anybody and reducing the work
later, meaning if a window-manager - package (compiz, openbox, kwin, etc)
has to re-build anyway before Goldmaster the "Provides: windowmanager"
line should be added to the spec now, with no extra cost and risk.

BTW: How should that "provides" be written (upper/lowercase, with 
or without [_-]) ? Are there existing lines in Fedora already?
No sense in deciding for "WindowManager" when "windowmanager" is already 
in use by an other distro just for the need, every little bit of 
unification / harmonics helps.

  -- Yamaban