[opensuse-kde] Re: Re: A little news on the KDE/Ubuntu side of things

On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:30, Roman Bysh wrote:

On Tue 07 Feb 2012 12:10:45 PM EST, Yamaban wrote:

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On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:37, Roman Bysh wrote:

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On Tue 07 Feb 2012 07:06:42 AM EST, C wrote:

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On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 13:04, Křištof Želechovski wrote:

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http://lwn.net/Articles/479710/ <snip> Let's be honest: Where are we (OSS and upstream) still not as good as KDE 3.5.x was?

Hints: PIM (Kmail2, akonadi, nepomuk and consorts.) is our biggest detriment and roadblock to a "great" UX. <snip> Kmail2 and akonadi is being worked on so that it will be working for openSUSE 12.2. Yes?

[Start of Rant] ATM. the biggest trouble is the inconsistency in KMail2 and the non-availability of a working KMail1 in KDE 4.x to bridge the gap. I'm not interested in a Mail-app that forces me to re-index / re-parse my mail-storage every other week. That may work for a few Megabytes of Mail, but is not do-able on a netbook and ca. 3.5 GB of Mail-archives. Thunderbird, ( - is no longer the resource hog it once was, - ) does a smooth handling of version upgrades in it's databases. KMail1 was fine with some exceptions, but very work able. I do service work, and have to have access to the customer-data, no matter the network availability, which forces big local storage. Will Kmail2 and akonadi / nepomuk be fully usable in 12.2 with this scenario? I do not believe that. Will the situation be better than now (12.1) ? - For sure. It's a way of betterment. But it will not be "good enough" for me. Not with the problems that are inherent in akonadi itself (hello, storage disaster). Maybe the akonadi-console should be installed with akonadi itself. For easier (selective) disablement of akonadi (or parts thereof). Yes, I'm frustrated with the state of PIM. No, I do not blame openSUSE, nor the KDE people in general. I'll still invest private time (that is left over after RL) into the betterment upstream. But until a reliable working solution is implemented, I'll avoid using PIM beyond testing as far as I can. [End of Rant] Beyond PIM I'm pleased with KDE 4.x and the work to further this pleasantness. I'll stay with KDE 4.7.x until the niggles in 4.8.0 are done (I'll try 4.8.1). I am thankful for the work you all do. But please respect me if I stand by my opinion that PIM is more than just a niggle atm. It's a major obstacle, but it is worked on. Gnome3 is not for me, and I could not get comfortable with Gnome2. XFCE / LXDE is a little to minimalist for my liking. I'll stand by KDE. - Yamaban.