Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-kde (348 mails)

[Roger Luedecke <roger.luedecke@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Tuesday, September 06, 2011 03:13:50 PM Yamaban wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 22:54, Patrick Shanahan <paka@...> wrote:
> > * Jon Nelson <jnelson-suse@xxxxxxxxxxx> [09-06-11 13:18]:
> > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Kim Leyendecker
> > >
> > > <kimleyendecker@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > Am 06.09.2011 17:38, schrieb Martin Schlander:
> > > > > Mandriva also included Thunderbird and Shotwell in their default
> > > > > install;-)
> > > > > ... Which probably makes sense for their target audience, but that
> > > > > doesn't mean openSUSE should do it.
> > > >
> > > > Well, I would support such a decision. I prefer Thunderbird instead of
> > > > KMail or Evolution.
> > >
> > > Ditto, but not by much:
> > >
> > > - thunderbird: it works, it's fast, it's extensible, and it's been
> > > pretty reliable. But, it's OUTRAGEOUSLY memory hungry. Up to 2GB. For
> > > mail. Too much. Poor google/gmail integration.
> > >
> > > - evolution: next best. Folder syncing via IMAP/DIMAP kinda-sorta
> > > works: it's rather CPU intensive, and it takes a *long* time to sync
> > > (compared to thunderbird). Not very configurable. It supports google
> > > calendar natively. BIG PLUS.
> > >
> > > - kmail: Looks great, the "flow"/UI is very good and easy to use while
> > > still being very powerful. However, it just doesn't work. Since KDE
> > > 3.5 or so, I've not yet had a kmail/kmail2 that works with google mail
> > > and my mailboxes. It takes forever to sync, even after the initial
> > > sync. Loses mail. Crashy. The akonadi integration has been a disaster
> > > for me. Totally unusable[1]. No google/gmail calendar integration.
> >
> > Guess I should speak up for "mutt", a text email client, that is TEXT
> > email client, that does it all with small memory footprint and all the
> > _power_ of any of the *others*.  A text email client for text email,
> > which is what email *should* be.  Have to place this above *all* others.
>
> +1. GUI for when it's possible ncurses for ssh and other constraints.
>
> - Thunderbird with Threading - Addon (cant remember name atm) for the
>       Desktop at home mostly imap thus no kmail since after KDE 3.5.x
> - Alpine (Pine successor) for the netbook or via ssh from a customer,
>       also imap. (Can't get warm with mutt's interface, but that's
>       personal)
>
> My hope for KMail is a working and stable, release, usable (not slow) imap
> and fixed backend. May it be akonadi, may it be its successor.
>
> Fast UI, no hidden hogs in the backend (hello nepomuk!), reliable imap via
> network (access to local imap server works fine).
>
> Check for the UI, but the rest? Is there hope for X-mas presents from
> kdepim?
>
> On Thunderbird, If one doesn't need the search that much, switch of the
> indexing and delete index. Sames oodles / tons of memory.
>
> Cheers, Yamaban.
>
> PS: I really liked KMail, right up before KDE 4. Then I had to switch,
> simply to get my work done. I'd like to switch back, but... not as it is.
Kmail definately needs some work on IMAP. Other than that, I love KMail.
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