Everything is in the subject. 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20:59:11|install|libx264-112|0.112svn20110115-1.pm.1.2|i586||Packman_1|08fd9bc4f068501089c06e8c46a0ada494d0bdd9 2011-01-27 20:59:12|install|libspeexdsp1|1.1.99.99-1.pm.1.3|i586||Packman_1|0ee1792bb41ec8989214303bae63b141fbebd557 2011-01-27 20:59:12|install|libspeex1|1.1.99.99-1.pm.1.3|i586||Packman_1|af131c796566ec37ddad92e43795ff26077a188b 2011-01-27 20:59:13|install|nvidia-settings|260.19.21-0.pm.1.5|i586||Packman_1|cf51810da4e319f04f33b66cbadce4ad2528484b 2011-01-27 20:59:14|install|libnice0|0.0.10-0.pm.1.25|i586||Packman_1|84af6c611b883386f3737a3bd35156bc89fd11f4 2011-01-27 20:59:14|install|liboil-0_3-0|0.3.17-1.pm.2.4|i586||Packman_1|28e9766be9d33eba3290085f109e11eda976aa70 2011-01-27 20:59:15|install|libcaca0|0.99.beta17-1.pm.2.12|i586||Packman_1|cda406762ef79429e346a0d20c65c80f36f9042b 2011-01-27 20:59:16|install|java3d|1.5.2-0.pm.1.4|i586||Packman_1|a92cd1db5d03d085b85e2b40bc21ccf441a2e388 2011-01-27 20:59:21|install|handbrake-cli|0.9.5-1.pm.1.8|i586||Packman_1|33aa577fdbdf3f231d01ef6dd18165ced09fd815 2011-01-27 20:59:22|install|libgstreamer-0_10-0|0.10.30-1000.pm.1003.2|i586||Packman_1|828f0269ac6f3b3ebb5bc70dd0121361482c313e 2011-01-27 20:59:22|install|libggi2|2.2.2-2.pm.3.6|i586||Packman_1|0e7922e8e10d898a966457d7f6b945db72e13a6c 2011-01-27 20:59:23|install|libavutil50|0.6.26387svn-1.pm.2.1|i586||Packman_1|d096057e3593eb39b334e4f9b9210948a63f214d 2011-01-27 20:59:24|install|libcrystalspace1_9|1.9.0_svn20100305-0.pm.2.19|i586||Packman_1|f99c60af148be96f5ec0a41f26f565b29c2ade67 2011-01-27 20:59:24|install|libcal3d12|0.11.0-0.pm.2.6|i586||Packman_1|ca295fb7f593894f07370cbc70a59e2ff1f616c0 2011-01-27 20:59:29|install|audacity|1.3.12-99.pm.99.14|i586||Packman_1|8424ec7b78df49fbd00f2337e41ec4d0788b23ea 2011-01-27 20:59:29|install|libmlt2|0.5.10-3.pm.3.2|i586||Packman_1|56f8df9c223e2ad050eef0c70ca7471df1ae6a9c 2011-01-27 20:59:29|install|libvpx0|0.9.5-1.pm.1.1|i586||Packman_1|1a7865c6022b6334f4eb9330edae2777c5c495c1 2011-01-27 20:59:35|install|llvm|2.7-1.pm.1.9|i586||Packman_1|3b9073072f5906326a800ec3c1008ce03aaf554d 2011-01-27 20:59:36|install|libdevil1|1.7.8-0.pm.3.7|i586||Packman_1|61a5f309abf9adbb583d892e52546f7189cea1fc 2011-01-27 20:59:37|install|libvlccore4|1.1.6-1.pm.3.1|i586||Packman_1|198d3bb6fccd81ae25536021f133cddee614b9b7 2011-01-27 20:59:37|install|mozilla-kde4-integration|0.6.3-17.2|i586||Mozilla_1|d2d60bf0868cf1bb735ed3ff406eb295b8e8585eae3fd7495f329d820111c921 2011-01-27 20:59:38|install|plasmoid-translatoid|1.30.svn1217361-36.1|i586||KDE4_STABLE_Extra|61fa08362531ed4a3475181d5acc434927af51516e74705dc3ce0357a8be2570 2011-01-27 20:59:40|install|python-qt4|4.7.3-3.18|i586||KDE4_STABLE_Desktop_1|bdbbce35cdcce52647b94a478b77855b2e3c982029d35ffd4d0be9eb0d09b9d9 2011-01-27 20:59:43|install|krusader|2.0.0-3.13|i586||openSUSE_11.2|79a79e5c0e96c4d2bf99135f4956a47a0872d4bf69db5c686cc79a8b7c566b8c 2011-01-27 21:00:00|install|perl|5.10.0-72.9.1|i586||openSUSE-11.2-Update|a46d82753b5d7015958439d5eeffe16dca6d5d53 2011-01-27 21:00:02|install|sudo|1.7.2-2.5.1|i586||openSUSE-11.2-Update|9b9437f813f15acef5c9e21ab08f69d4e7d05209 2011-01-27 21:00:26|install|libxine1|1.1.19-2.pm.48.18|i586||Packman_1|1bcd29cc3353d49919e6c8593b724c597262be35 2011-01-27 21:00:26|install|x264|0.112svn20110115-1.pm.1.2|i586||Packman_1|bad30095b24b57b3e9e414ce366747ccd4f4ce30 2011-01-27 21:00:27|install|speex|1.1.99.99-1.pm.1.3|i586||Packman_1|bb67a903fdd80c03f3d331f834822e3e7c506b44 2011-01-27 21:00:27|install|liboil-devel|0.3.17-1.pm.2.4|i586||Packman_1|be933ba318d8bb3f28b7f23f246ebd0d04318781 2011-01-27 21:00:27|install|gstreamer-0_10-libnice|0.0.10-0.pm.1.25|i586||Packman_1|d83232081a4a815c13054cb912e8694262b163da 2011-01-27 21:00:29|install|caca-utils|0.99.beta17-1.pm.2.12|i586||Packman_1|61b595e1a3e2ef4d62e0fef2afc547011784e426 2011-01-27 21:00:30|install|libgstapp-0_10-0|0.10.30-999.pm.1002.13|i586||Packman_1|3c775e1237f71cc300492dab2dd52d2750e45f62 2011-01-27 21:00:30|install|gstreamer-0_10-utils|0.10.30-1000.pm.1003.2|i586||Packman_1|13e1867a7d2782b74662d24cef05f4b68ed48d89 2011-01-27 21:00:31|install|gstreamer-0_10|0.10.30-1000.pm.1003.2|i586||Packman_1|3d370db10ef8466925e97ff8c06ddaf7e0734765 2011-01-27 21:00:31|install|libswscale0|0.6.26387svn-1.pm.2.1|i586||Packman_1|23775f22939b60309588bfac9595091788c5e8ed 2011-01-27 21:00:32|install|libpostproc51|0.6.26387svn-1.pm.2.1|i586||Packman_1|eee9c237c1383eb9236d1c93b02b7ad11f4c4dd9 2011-01-27 21:00:32|install|libavcore0|0.6.26387svn-1.pm.2.1|i586||Packman_1|8b0ae19fc0d0e45500cabebd1bfc459c32d27f45 2011-01-27 21:00:32|install|libcrystalspace_opengl1_9|1.9.0_svn20100305-0.pm.2.19|i586||Packman_1|69bef2c4387ed62ba9d41d20ed64c40e6d720856 2011-01-27 21:00:34|install|libceltool1_9|1.9.0_svn20100305-0.pm.1.22|i586||Packman_1|7e1fcfb9bdcc1be58f9399a8b98b8c997ad2c8af 2011-01-27 21:00:40|install|MPlayer|1.0rc4_r32749-1.pm.2.2|i586||Packman_1|85f8701f08fa2d3ea177153446c743890199ceef 2011-01-27 21:00:40|install|libmlt++3|0.5.10-3.pm.3.2|i586||Packman_1|4bb8897321abc8de55f9f4e642333c790bf3effd 2011-01-27 21:00:41|install|libvlc5|1.1.6-1.pm.3.1|i586||Packman_1|7cbc9b06d4b6e6020009f1c103e09e744aa284ec 2011-01-27 21:00:50|install|perl-doc|5.10.0-72.9.1|i586||openSUSE-11.2-Update|f51a3d9f55f19d3c5570ccf57f8de1e1d88cf535 2011-01-27 21:00:55|install|libxine1-pulse|1.1.19-2.pm.48.18|i586||Packman_1|b0356f03b152f48f8017b60fc90df6dc7233a872 2011-01-27 21:00:55|install|libxine1-gnome-vfs|1.1.19-2.pm.48.18|i586||Packman_1|0adc073320a859c68a36404cc2f0578b1511b76d 2011-01-27 21:00:55|install|libxine1-directfb|1.1.19-2.pm.48.18|i586||Packman_1|693069eca1591588f91a236f7917545cd398910d 2011-01-27 21:00:55|install|libxine1-sdl|1.1.19-2.pm.48.18|i586||Packman_1|0e8104f5bb8a8fd9df456da41ef5c10e8f1f195b 2011-01-27 21:00:56|install|libxine1-aa|1.1.19-2.pm.48.18|i586||Packman_1|34659a13c2c2510290670694d2b123d95e5b7126 2011-01-27 21:00:56|install|gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base|0.10.30-999.pm.1002.13|i586||Packman_1|81703641ce6245f3e3ad4fe1e41894889212840d 2011-01-27 21:00:57|install|gstreamer-utils|0.10.30-1000.pm.1003.2|i586||Packman_1|502d101c83ede0593905276d2db2a52b1b46aeaf 2011-01-27 21:00:57|install|gstreamer-0_10-devel|0.10.30-1000.pm.1003.2|i586||Packman_1|184502d387cd73760928a837193e3f41fa9516f2 2011-01-27 21:00:58|install|libavcodec52|0.6.26387svn-1.pm.2.1|i586||Packman_1|428696c0fcec629c163d36d9577026caccd2806d 2011-01-27 21:01:07|install|crystalspace|1.9.0_svn20100305-0.pm.2.19|i586||Packman_1|182d94021031da815dcbe2837247841e4d9cf4e4 2011-01-27 21:01:10|install|smplayer|0.6.9+r3597-1.1|i586||KDE4_STABLE_Extra|380b088caa354e18778e055c1fee2f76d04495eb75b89e0579ff8a42361d043a 2011-01-27 21:01:11|install|libxine1-codecs|1.1.19-2.pm.48.18|i586||Packman_1|44635acada3149ab623a69fbff293c9a86c485e0 2011-01-27 21:01:11|install|libgstinterfaces-0_10-0|0.10.30-999.pm.1002.13|i586||Packman_1|92fabee7aee828aa93c4771dfe9831f8305d067e 2011-01-27 21:01:12|install|libavfilter1|0.6.26387svn-1.pm.2.1|i586||Packman_1|ec3326c4ada14bd0bb4ac09ba3a17575e0bebb39 2011-01-27 21:01:12|install|libavformat52|0.6.26387svn-1.pm.2.1|i586||Packman_1|e0a2caad3cc7cb9b219e80358dea7c46cadf9efb 2011-01-27 21:01:17|install|crystalspace-utils|1.9.0_svn20100305-0.pm.2.19|i586||Packman_1|ea574783f7be6289cfc76d5e2adeed643f8f4ba7 2011-01-27 21:01:18|install|libquicktime0|1.2.2-101.pm.101.2|i586||Packman_1|0c85370c75d8576169bdd5e5ac097ea6f32a532e 2011-01-27 21:01:19|install|gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base-devel|0.10.30-999.pm.1002.13|i586||Packman_1|4ad80d5239e0da7fb601c7101ca9f5ce68b1a378 2011-01-27 21:01:21|install|gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good|0.10.24-999.pm.1001.19|i586||Packman_1|78da4a7c360a3e66f87424a61d5649200e6e70e9 2011-01-27 21:01:21|install|libavdevice52|0.6.26387svn-1.pm.2.1|i586||Packman_1|283c1fa16e19e9d65e6b2d4cb6cbf3eae0602fe0 2011-01-27 21:01:25|install|cel|1.9.0_svn20100305-0.pm.1.22|i586||Packman_1|f7015772c9babe845b4840be8100b856b33c0fd6 2011-01-27 21:01:28|install|transcode|1.1.5-100.pm.101.2|i586||Packman_1|e7cd79ade65226f8325ea445e4867dc53687d5a9 2011-01-27 21:01:29|install|sox|14.3.1-100.pm.100.4|i586||Packman_1|73babc000be5415bcac1a0ab7e809931aa92f700 2011-01-27 21:01:29|install|libquicktime-tools|1.2.2-101.pm.101.2|i586||Packman_1|3298a4ef18bb6c7a4576294393ef18b4b1db3fc1 2011-01-27 21:01:29|install|gstreamer-0_10-plugins-ugly|0.10.15-999.pm.1002.6|i586||Packman_1|99e5abeb4667a5c21e7bf361f37adecb9fd41cbc 2011-01-27 21:01:31|install|libopencv2_2|2.2.0-9.1|i586||KDE4_STABLE_Extra|e6c0ac280f12a798f677d2d784fd0a6683587ef425fdff330358036a13d433c9 2011-01-27 21:01:32|install|gstreamer-0_10-plugins-ugly-lang|0.10.15-999.pm.1002.6|noarch||Packman_1|46f78eb23267a09029fbde4ba26ad0b1be38e3eb 2011-01-27 21:01:32|install|gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good-extra|0.10.24-999.pm.1001.19|i586||Packman_1|ef5ffdb2f0fed49d7711ad5d64a9b36042226a59 2011-01-27 21:01:34|install|ffmpeg|0.6.26387svn-1.pm.2.1|i586||Packman_1|5a5e56f0356b03559f0a1992c89bed415fc01a8e 2011-01-27 21:01:35|install|mlt|0.5.10-3.pm.3.2|i586||Packman_1|6d4d2843e00be3e1a30c2ec3a094ff98b55c5037 2011-01-27 21:01:47|install|vlc-noX|1.1.6-1.pm.3.1|i586||Packman_1|07da175a0f5d3a1cd4810b21975e1097497791af 2011-01-27 21:01:48|install|vlc-qt|1.1.6-1.pm.3.1|i586||Packman_1|742491b5ac614efa329c6d9db83106e70baf45c8 2011-01-27 21:01:50|install|vlc|1.1.6-1.pm.3.1|i586||Packman_1|dd9f7b4dc05cfab5af3c70f304154883f8efcf23 2011-01-28 08:30:39|install|gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base-lang|0.10.30-999.pm.1002.14|noarch||Packman_1|4e4eb0409370b547714d511f04235b3f9f189676 2011-01-28 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If I select gstreamer as primary engine in kde, pulseaudio doesn't work. If I use xine, users, can have sound. Why ? Gstreamer was working great during the last year ..... Is this related to our new discussion about Gstreamer ? Did we get a pb with packman related rpm ? Anyway what's bad, if I'm not alone, users using 11.2 with the KDE/Distro/Stable can encounter this type of problems. and it's pretty hard to detect, there's no errors in logs, in /var/log/messages, .xsession-errors. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org