On 15/02/10 22:09, Stephan Kleine wrote:
On Monday February 15 2010 11:57:36 Lubos Lunak wrote:
On Saturday 13 of February 2010, Adrian Schröter wrote:
Am Freitag, 12. Februar 2010 16:40:36 schrieb Stephan Kleine:
On Friday February 12 2010 16:35:14 Lubos Lunak wrote:
I don't understand why we should solve this by having a separate
vendor and not e.g. repo priorities. What exactly is the purpose of having a different vendor? It's very likely that we either should not do this or do it for more subrepositories of KDE: .
Priorities are repository wide. So it weren't possible to use e.g. Amarok from K:K:P while sticking to the Ktorrent from K:K:F:D.
Because vendors are set for every package the above usecase weren't a problem with different vendors.
Vendors give the user the chance to decide which version of a package to pick.
Also zypper/yast are showing when a package changes the Vendor. So the user has a chance to decide on his own.
Vendors are about trust in the end. For example a user might be fine to use $unimportant_small_application from Playground, but he may not be fine to use kdebase from there.
Ok, whatever, but then this is not just about Playground. I may not want to use something from Community, or from Factory, or from UNSTABLE or maybe somewhere else. So which all repos should have their own vendor?
- Playground - Community - UNSTABLE - Factory - something else?
[UN]STABLE & Factory are done by Novell folks and there's no reason to mix them (enabling 2 of them simply makes no sense) so they don't "need" a different vendor. Further them having different vendors would make it harder (cause of the vendor stickiness / explicit change) if one switches e.g. from STABLE to Factory.
Playground needs a different vendor for the reasons explained above and Community is run by the community (as in different people than [UN]STABLE & Factory) so one could argue that the "trust level" isn't the same and therefore it should have a different vendor too.
So I would vote for [UN]STABLE & Factory sticking with the current vendor and Community and Playground each getting their unique vendor.
regards, Stephan
I guess for PLAYGROUND you are referring to this latest list; [DIR] Parent Directory http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/ - [DIR] SLE_11/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/SLE_11/ 26-Dec-2009 23:26 - [DIR] openSUSE_11.0/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.... 16-Dec-2009 09:49 - [DIR] openSUSE_11.0_KDE4_Factory_Desktop/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.... 16-Feb-2010 01:21 - [DIR] openSUSE_11.0_KDE4_STABLE_Desktop/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.... 14-Feb-2010 10:39 - [DIR] openSUSE_11.0_KDE_43/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.... 16-Feb-2010 01:22 - [DIR] openSUSE_11.1/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.... 26-Dec-2009 23:01 - [DIR] openSUSE_11.1_KDE4_Factory_Desktop/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.... 16-Feb-2010 01:13 - [DIR] openSUSE_11.1_KDE4_STABLE_Desktop/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.... 16-Feb-2010 01:14 - [DIR] openSUSE_11.1_KDE4_UNSTABLE_Desktop/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.... 16-Feb-2010 01:21 - [DIR] openSUSE_11.1_KDE_43/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.... 16-Feb-2010 01:13 - [DIR] openSUSE_11.2/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.... 16-Feb-2010 01:13 - [DIR] openSUSE_11.2_KDE4_Factory_Desktop/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.... 16-Feb-2010 01:34 - [DIR] openSUSE_11.2_KDE4_UNSTABLE_Desktop/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.... 16-Feb-2010 01:14 - [DIR] openSUSE_11.2_KDE_43/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.... 16-Feb-2010 01:11 - [DIR] openSUSE_Factory/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_Fac... 16-Feb-2010 01:28 - [DIR] openSUSE_Factory_KDE4_UNSTABLE_Desktop/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_Fac... 16-Feb-2010 01:13 - under Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground There is another, similar list under the Community directory. All fine (said with tongue in cheek), but my question is: Could you, or someone, * please* tell us who is in *charge*, who is *in* *control*, who is *overseeing*, who is the *management team* of the repositories, their names, their direction, their contents and co-ordinating their contents? This is a genuine question, so don't come up with the '"you're a troll"' crap. Who *IS* running the show? Novell? SuSE? KDE? "Community" - but who in the "Community"? Redmond? Who? BC -- The calendar's days are numbered! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org