Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-kde (199 mails)

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On Thursday 19 March 2009 12:08:14 am Mathias Homann wrote:
> Am Donnerstag 19 März 2009 schrieb Martin Schlander:
> > > > it also has
> > > > tons of improvements over KDE3.
> > >
> > > Welllll... Now here we go! That is what all of the KDE4 fans
> > > point out. I don't think that is a true statement. I have yet to
> > > see them. Wish somebody would enumerate them or point them out to
> > > me.....Please ???....
> >
> > I'm afraid it's been tried before. But this subset of users we're
> > talking about are blind to new functionality,
>
> I'm not going to explore for "new functionality" while i'm still
> trying to find ways to do what i do on a regular basis.
>
> > all they want is something that works
>
> and what is wrong with wanting something that works the way you're
> used to?
>
> > and looks exactly like their KDE3 used to do -
>
> never said that.
>
> > everything else is instantly discarded as unimportant.
>
> never said that either.
>
> > But just for sport I can name some examples...
> >
> > Okular kicks kpdf ass in lots of ways for example by supporting pdf
> > forms and tons of different document formats.
>
> and how often did I have to handle a pdf file with forms?
> not a single time so far. hence, i could not care less for okular
> improvements FOR MY PERSONAL USAGE.
>
> > KWin effects can increase usability and productivity regardless how
> > often it's discarded as "just eyecandy".
>
> eyecandy that can increase usability and productivity is just eyecandy
> with bells on.
>
> > The same can be said for plasma and plasmoids btw. It may still be
> > a bit immature, but it's a heck of a lot better than superkaramba
> > ever was. And with activities and folderview etc. it's already
> > becoming flexible in many ways that kdesktop never was.
>
> superkaramba does not crash as often as plasma. hell, just an hour ago
> plasma crashed on me when i was just trying to move a plasmoid on the
> dock.
>
> > Marble, a completely new application which doesn't even have a kde3
> > equivalent and supports openstreetmap view and lots of nice things.
>
> ... looks like google earth to me, just without all the detail.
>
> > KMail just got support for tabs and neat aggregation modes in 4.2.
>
> I didnt get far enough into kmail to find that, because it keeps
> crashing.
>
> > Krunner does a ton things that the old run command thingy didn't
> > do.
>
> nice.
>
> > KGet, Gwenview, KTorrrent... You could go on, pretty much any KDE4
> > component has plenty features that didn't exist in the KDE3
> > counterpart.
>
> does not mean a thing when the features dont work reliably, or older
> more basic features go missing.
>
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To all defenders of kde4 and the way it was marketed:
there are just too many of us who are waiting for kde5, perhaps even higher!!! 
until then it's 3.5, gnome, xfce etc. 
even windows does not arbitrarily break oodles of perfectly good apps just to 
introduce new features in the scale kde4 has!!!! In the very next thread 
there is a complaint that even font scaling has been hidden from the visually 
impaired, with a possible workaround  thru the setup of a related app!!!!!
stuff like that is simply dum and it is unfortunate that so much of it is 
still being discovered.
But, if someone is to be blamed, it should be the marketeers. it is them who 
took 4.0 from the good guys, pronounced it good and hid kde3.5 under "other" 
in the 11.1 install disk!  they have done a great disservice to the linucs 
community, a great service to microsoft....

as inquiring minds would ask....

could that be deliberate?
did they receive a bonus?
has novel accepted any bailout money?
do we have a mini aig case here?

:))))

d.
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