Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-kde (199 mails)

[Bob S <911@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wednesday 18 March 2009 10:25:41 am Martin Schlander wrote:

<snip a bunch>..............(so I'm not top-posting)

First of all this is not a rant and is not directed at you Martin.  I want 
KDE4 to work and be better than KDE3. I just get tired of when a user 
complains about something, the KDE4 people accuse them of ranting, not 
contributing, being negative for the sake of negativity, etc.  They may just 
have a point you know. Why must they be "jumped" on and scolded like they 
were unappreciative children?

> Besides saying KDE4 is unusable because you personally are hit by a few
> inconveniences, is far fetched - especially as you _are_ actually using
> KDE4. Already when 11.0 was released with 4.0 a survey showed a very large
> uptake of KDE4,

And that was probably because many people, like me, wanted to see what it was 
all about and hoping for the best. I tried 11.0 with 4.0 and was so 
dissapointed I blew it away

> and surely 4.2 is a heck of a lot better than 4.0 was - 

Yes, I am now testing 11.1 with 4.2 and it is dramatically and decidedly much 
better. (11.1 itself still has many problems though)

...<snip more>......

> KDE 4.2 factory packages are already a rather nice experience albeit a bit
> rough from time to time as should be expected from factory - sure it still
> has bugs and some regressions compared to KDE3, that's life,

Yes it certainly does. and that is the point. "that's life" ? Hmmmm..Not so 
sure about that. Wasn't by chance or fate that is for sure.

> it also has 
> tons of improvements over KDE3. 

Welllll... Now here we go! That is what all of the KDE4 fans point out. I 
don't think that is a true statement. I have yet to see them. Wish somebody 
would enumerate them or point them out to me.....Please ???....

> By November official SUSE-enhanced KDE 
> 4.3.x packages will be much, much better still than the current factory
> packages.
We ALL hope that. There are still so many small niggling things. I just go 
with my weekly upgrades and hope that they dissapear.

> Have some patience and perspective. A lot has happened in the last 14
> months, and with KDE4 gaining momentum even more could happen in the next 8
> months.

I have lots of patience. Just keep waiting and watching. I don't worry about 
it though because I give 11.1 with 4.2 a couple of hours everynight to see 
what I can learn and/or fix/configure it to work the way I want it to. After 
that I go back to my rock solid 10.3 with 3.5-10 to do what I really want to 
do the way I want to do it.

Bob S


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