Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-kde (199 mails)

[Oliver <artus-ol@xxxxxxx>]

Hi,

Am Mittwoch, 18. März 2009 schrieb Lubos Lunak: 

>  You cannot get what you want for the money you paid, you can only get
> what you paid for. Since I doubt you actually paid for something that'd
> make you eligible for this kind of demands, since those come with better
> support channels than a mailing list, I assume you paid for the openSUSE
> box. In other words, if I'm not mistaken, you paid roughly for the box,
> media, printed manuals and a limited installation support. If you didn't
> get any of that, request a refund from wherever you got the product. If
> you want more, pay for it, do it yourself or wait calmly until somebody
> does it for you for free. That is how free software works.

Maybe you didn't read all I wrote. After 15 years with any of SuSE-Linux-
Distributions they had, I think I know what I'm doing, where to get help 
from and how to help myself or others. KDE4 was offered as stable, doesn't 
it? Didn't everybody told you then, never pronounce a KDE x.0-System other 
than beta?

Like your footer shows us, it seems like you will get paid for your work, 
don't you? And with you, there are enough other developer whome get paid 
for developing KDE, so please. You will have a roadmap for developing and 
sometimes, the roadmap need a rebuild.

> > Outside of your little world are enough user who give you the honor to
> > use the software you produce. So open your ears and hear what they
> > say. Without the user outside there is no need for developers!
>
>  You are seriously confused about the state of things.
If you get money for producing something just for playing around, you are 
right.

No. I think some of you are too far away from the base. It is one thing, 
that KDE4 is not stable enough to be as this pronounced from Novell. But it 
is really another thing to blame on user to be quit or help, if they have 
some problems with the software.

If software is buggy enough that systems crashes too much or the needful 
things like kmail, pim or whatever are not stable enough or useable, what 
do you think user will do? You can ask Novell how this works because they 
have experiences with that.

The fault was, to start with the actual SuSE-Distro with KDE4. Since that, 
you have to use the next and the next and the next KDE-Update in hope, it 
will be better but it doesn't. There is no need for a second desktop-system 
which just will be nice-klicked-very-colored-funny-stuff and to forget to 
make the produceable and needful utilities stable.

Hear what the user told you, work with them and accept, that not everybody 
can help you. And stop developing new features before the system isn't 
stable enough.

Not every bug can be a feature.

So. This is not a thread someone needs.


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gruß

Oliver
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