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Re: [opensuse-kde] what's the point with KDE 4...
  • From: Sven Burmeister <sven.burmeister@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:19:36 +0100
  • Message-id: <200903180919.37427.sven.burmeister@xxxxxxx>
Am Mittwoch, 18. März 2009 01:40:31 schrieb Oliver:
I don't believe that you wrote what you wrote. If you mean, that the holy
developer have to be holy and the producing of any software is just for
playing around and have a good time, THAN DON'T SALE that stuff and play
with it!

If Novell is pronouncing KDE 4 as a stable system ready for work, THAN I
want exactly THAT for the money I paid for and not that kiddy-scripting-
just-clicking-and-crashing-better-than-windows stuff!

Very concrete! What crashes, what scripting - or did you just want to list
some buzzwords to make your point?

If you mean, that everybody who need to criticism something about KDE, have
to develop or help, change your business!

That's exactly the point. There are different kinds of criticism and yours and
the original poster's are not constructive and hence useless - as useless as
feeding the trolls, which I hereby do nevertheless - damn!

If you are not able to develop a stable system, don't talk about features,
stupid or not! And, if you mean KDE4 IS stable, sleep well or learn too
develop!

After 15 years with SuSE, I'm really fed up with such an answer I read too
often in the last few months escpecially about KDE4!

Trust me, those enjoying KDE4 and working with it every day are fed-up with
useless comments and whining as yours. They prove you wrong with every task
they complete and you make that dead easy because by exaggerating you only
show that you lack real arguments and that what you say cannot be true in that
extent.

Outside of your little world are enough user who give you the honor to use
the software you produce. So open your ears and hear what they say. Without
the user outside there is no need for developers! And there is also no
need, that everybody who use openSource-Software have to help to develop
it.

Just because those whining shout loudest it does not mean anything. I have not
seen yet a group of developers that forked KDE3 and is actively working on it,
so where are the many that KDE 4 does not listen/appeal to? Statistics tells
me that if there are really that many users that think the same as you, there
must be developers of that kind as well, taking charge of the KDE3 codebase.
Maybe even a company that can live off the many KDE3 customers that won't
switch. If not, then probably you are just wrong about your assumptions and
just show your love for dead-ends and inflexibility.

Wake up and change your mind. The time is really over that Linux and every
derivates is just for hacker and script-cracker. Answers like yours are one
of the reason why Linux don't arrives more user than until now.


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Oh, hey - very mature and showing the attitude towards constructive
discussions and how you really think about "open your ears and listen".

In the end it comes down to: You lose some you win some. If you are right,
KDE(4) will die, if not, KDE3 will. Any bookie around?

Sven
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