Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-kde (237 mails)

[Eric Springer <erikina@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Basil Chupin <blchupin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Is openSUSE a leader or a follower? Is openSUSE an innovator or a copycat?

This is not the right place to argue the matter, doing so would
require a change in the openSUSE release cycle. People are *expecting*
that openSUSE 11.1 is a stable target. Yes they want updates, but
security and bug fixes. Pushing a massive change like KDE 4.2
especially in its current state (it's not a smooth upgrade) would be
extremely irresponsible. (Have a look at this mailing list for a
sample of problems people have had upgrading, and they're the more
skilled kde users).

If someone wants the next version of KDE, it's quite easy for them to
get. If you want it, get it. If you don't want it, be left in peace.


> No? Then why did oS officially release, and claim to have officially
> release, KDE4.2?

Go to the announcement, read the instructions and enjoy your KDE 4.2
desktop. Seriously, what's stopping you?


> One has little choice in wondering what the heck is going on, and wondering 
> if one had entered the world of Alice > In Wonderland and attending the Mad 
> Hatter's Tea Party.

Not really. You'd be better off trying to learn what's going on, than
being so militant.

KDE 4.2 isn't going to ship in OS 11.1 -- and in fact, never may ship
at all. (Depending on when 11.2 is released.) So if 11.2 is going to
ship with KDE 4.3 then naturally the factory repo will need to upgrade
to KDE 4.3.


> Buggered if I know. Do they sit around and pick their noses and roll the
> extractions into balls and flick them at each other? You tell me what
> they do.
>
> I do, however, understand that the people dealing with oS "adjust" what
> the "kde-team" produces and then put it out as updates to KDE for those
> oS users using KDE (versus GNOME).
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> You have an email address with '@gmail.com'. There is no indication of
> who you are or who you work for. There are at least one cranially
> handicapped living organism who uses various aliases on gmail.com.
>
> I am more than suspicious of anyone using gmail or yahoo or similar to
> post messages.

Good for you? Again you'd be better off reading the contents of the
email than coming up with conspiracy theories. I use gmail as it's
simply the most convenient for me. My ISP provides a shitty email
service and I don't particularly needing to change emails just because
I change ISP. And my University only offers a crappy web client, no
thanks.


> If you know what you are talking about and express
> comments/suggestions/information from Novell/oS/KDE then use your real
> name and address and not hide behind a 'proxy' address.

Heh. You really need to relax.

> --
> "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If 
> I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the 
> other three, I drop him."
>                                              Confucius
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