Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-kde (237 mails)

[Basil Chupin <blchupin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Martin Schlander wrote:
> Onsdag 04 februar 2009 09:19:39 skrev Basil Chupin:
>   
> > Martin Schlander wrote:
> >     
> > > However, there's a special situation because 11.2 is likely to have KDE
> > > 4.3 - meaning 4.2 will be "skipped" by openSUSE in terms of official
> > > packages.
> > >       
> > All goobly-dook from a users point of view.
> >     
>
> Regular users are expected and intended to use the official packages that 
> come 
> with the distro.
>   

Which are?....considering that there are always updates to a currently
official release of oS.

> > KDE 4.2 is officially released, right? Then put it into the normal
> > update repositories for oS 11.1.
> >     
>
> Do you see any comparable distros doing that?

Is openSUSE a leader or a follower? Is openSUSE an innovator or a copycat?


>  Like any other serious major 
> distro openSUSE is not a rolling release distro.

No? Then why did oS officially release, and claim to have officially
release, KDE4.2?

>  Haven't you been using 
> openSUSE long enough to know about the update policies?
>   

No, I don't believe that I have been using oS long enough to know the
"update" policy.

And seeing repository entries along the lines of:


Parent Directory 
<http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/>                
                        
 SLE_10/ 
<http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/SLE_10/> 
                           06-Feb-2009 21:04 - 
 openSUSE_10.3/ 
<http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_10.3/>
                     07-Feb-2009 14:47   
 openSUSE_11.0/ 
<http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.0/>
                     07-Feb-2009 14:21   
 openSUSE_11.1+Qt45/ 
<http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.1+Qt45/>
                07-Feb-2009 22:49   
 openSUSE_11.1/ 
<http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.1/>
                     07-Feb-2009 18:32   
 openSUSE_Factory/ 
<http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_Factory/>
                  06-Feb-2009 15:32


then  also seeing:


QUOTE

KDE:KDE4:Factory will switch the KDE 4.3, once it enters openSUSE:Factory.

I have asked on IRC if it is possible to save the latest state of KDE 4.2 in 
an additional repository. Stephan Binner answered that he can copy it to 
KDE:KDE4:KDE42. So it looks like we can stay on KDE4.2, until we feel KDE 4.3 
is stable enough.

Herbert

UNQUOTE


followed by

QUOTE

I think what Stephan meant on IRC was 
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/KDE42:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.1/

I have no promise though...

UNQUOTE


+
One has little choice in wondering what the heck is going on, and wondering if 
one had entered the world of Alice In Wonderland and attending the Mad Hatter's 
Tea Party.




> And understand that kde.org releasing a bunch of tarballs with millions of 
> lines of code and hundreds of different components, doesn't magically turn 
> into stable, polished, themed, patched rpm packages for openSUSE that 
> integrate nicely with the distro. What the heck do you think the kde-team is 
> doing all day if it were that easy?
>   

Buggered if I know. Do they sit around and pick their noses and roll the
extractions into balls and flick them at each other? You tell me what
they do.

I do, however, understand that the people dealing with oS "adjust" what
the "kde-team" produces and then put it out as updates to KDE for those
oS users using KDE (versus GNOME).




You have an email address with '@gmail.com'. There is no indication of
who you are or who you work for. There are at least one cranially
handicapped living organism who uses various aliases on gmail.com.

I am more than suspicious of anyone using gmail or yahoo or similar to
post messages.

If you know what you are talking about and express
comments/suggestions/information from Novell/oS/KDE then use your real
name and address and not hide behind a 'proxy' address.




-- 
"I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I 
mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the 
other three, I drop him."
                                              Confucius


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