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Re: [opensuse-kde] kde-4.2 stable
  • From: "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." <bss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:20:03 -0600
  • Message-id: <200902080020.09125.bss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Wednesday 04 February 2009 02:19:39 Basil Chupin wrote:
Martin Schlander wrote:
Mandag 02 februar 2009 21:05:34 skrev Low Kian Seong:
Just want to know when kde 4.2 will be merged into the kde stable
repository. That being said what is the difference between Factory and
Stable?

Always the same questions ;-)

Yes, until some sanity prevails about naming conventions by Novell/SUSE.

As has been stated multiple times, there is no plan to release KDE 4.2
packages for openSUSE 11.1.

Stable is "openSUSE stable", meaning the stable, tested, officially
released

"Officially released", "tested".

Then why confuse the heck out of users?

Why not simply, if these are "tested, officially released" packages,
include them in the normal 11.1 update repositories so that those who
have KDE 4.1.x installed will have it updated to the "tested, officially
released" KDE 4.2 instead of all this buggerising around with
STABLE/Factory "line dancing"?

STABLE does not contain KDE 4.2 for openSUSE 11.1. KDE 4.1.x is maintained in
STABLE. STABLE are packages the openSUSE KDE team feels are suitable for
openSUSE 11.1, that may or may not be put into the Updates repository based on
the decisions of another group.

If a package makes it to STABLE, it's likely to be included in the update
repositories. There are no plans to introduce KDE 4.2 to STABLE, AFAIK.

KDE packages of the latest openSUSE release (+ some so far unreleased
patches). Also made available for older openSUSE releases.

Factory is "development packages for next openSUSE release", but also
made available for older openSUSE releases.

However, there's a special situation because 11.2 is likely to have KDE
4.3 - meaning 4.2 will be "skipped" by openSUSE in terms of official
packages.

All goobly-dook from a users point of view.

How so? Please let me know at what point you determine his text "non-sense"
and I'll attempt to clarify. If you don't *want* to know about such things,
it you who are apathetic (and possibly ignorant) not (necessarily) the subject
matter.

KDE4.3 and oS 11.2 has nothing to do with KDE4.2 and its official
release for its use in 11.1.

KDE 4.2 has not been released as part of openSUSE 11.1. It is unlikely that
it will ever be. "[M]aybe it'll be moved to stable extraordinarily as an
exception to the rule." is the closest anyone has gotten to talking about a
release of KDE 4.2 packages for openSUSE 11.1.

4.3 beta is expected to move to factory at some point before too long.
What will happen to 4.2 then is undecided - maybe it'll be moved to
stable extraordinarily as an exception to the rule, or it may be moved to
a new project where it can remain unmaintained or it may be dropped
altogether. Whatever happens this list will be notified about repo
changes.

More goodly-dook and double-talk.

How is this "goodly-dook" or "double-talk"?

IMO: It makes sense, so it's not "goodly-dook". It also doesn't make
conflicting statements, do it isn't "double-talk".

Could you please defend your assertion that it is "goodly-dook" OR "double-
talk"?

I think this Build Service/Factory/Stable/Unstable or whatever has gone
totally ga-ga and is causing more confusion that it was meant to solve.

Then, simply use the official, supported repositories. You opt-in the to
confusion of the extra repositories.

KDE 4.2 is officially released, right? Then put it into the normal
update repositories for oS 11.1.

The KDE 4.2 source was released by the KDE project. KDE 4.2 is not in any
released version of openSUSE, and may not *ever* be in a released version of
openSUSE.

It won't be in the release of Debian Lenny on (roughly) the 14th, and will,
most likely not bee in the release of Debian Squeeze. openSUSE is not the
only distribution that may not have "official" "released" KDE 4.2 packages.
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