Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-kde (180 mails)

[Lubos Lunak <l.lunak@xxxxxxx>]

On Thursday 15 of January 2009, Marc Benstein wrote:
> In one of my latest bug reports Lubos Lunak said, "Please report problems
> with unstable versions upstream unless they're SUSE-specific."
>
> This was a report from the Factory, (KDE: 4.1.87 (KDE 4.1.87 (KDE 4.2 >=
> 20090101)) "release 78.4") which I thought was SUSE specific and not
> considered exactly UNSTABLE.

 KDE 4.1.87 is KDE4.2 Beta2 (?), an unstable KDE release. Factory is currently 
what will be in openSUSE11.2, in about half a year.

 Sven has already very well explained the rest.

> If Factory is not considered SUSE specific then what is? Is it branding,
> packaging, patches, and backports only?
>
> I use KDE and openSUSE for work around ten hours every single day. I really
> only have time to report bugs to one location if I even manage to get
> around to reporting them. Should the beta-customer be deciding what reports
> go upstream from factory? It seems reasonable to me that all Factory
> reports should go to bugzilla.novell.com and that all UNSTABLE reports
> should go to bugs.kde.org. This way Factory can become SUSE specific due to
> the KDE Team deciding what goes upstream and what gets patched.

 The reason is actually about the same like yours. I don't know if you realize 
that although openSUSE is a community project and people help with bug 
screening and other things, a vast majority of KDE bugreports will have to be 
handled by only 3 people, who also have other things to do. That's how things 
are. People who definitely want to have better support need to pay for it, 
those who use openSUSE get it for free and that has some consequences.

 If every single bug in openSUSE KDE packages would go to our bugzilla first, 
we'd be completely overwhelmed and wouldn't be able to even cope with this 
one thing, let alone all the other things we need to do. Therefore we 
currently need to limit ourselves to our own bugs or bugs that are important. 
As I said, openSUSE is a community project, so if there would be enough 
people working on bugzilla screening, we could try more, but although current 
help from community members is a big help, we can take only so much, sorry.

 I understand you're trying to help, but keeping a bugreport for a bug in an 
unstable KDE release that will possibly be significant for openSUSE in only 
about half a year and will very likely be fixed by that time is very very low 
priority, so this needs some judgement on the feasibility. Imagine what would 
happen if everybody used our bugzilla the same way like 
http://bugzilla.novell.com/442933 .

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