. I took someone's advice and reinstalled Suse8. This time I used Reiser, wich I've had good luck with, rather than ext3, which I've had bad luck with. Now things are much better, but when I'm logged in as a user, I can't start kfmsu. I hit the menu item, it asks me for a password, and never gives kfm. Here's /root/.xsession-errors: 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /opt/kde3/lib/libkdecore.so.4: undefined symbol: NP_GetValue nspluginscan: WARNING: Plugin doesn't implement NP_GetValue kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/opt/netscape/plugins/raclass.zip: file=/opt/netscape/plugins/raclass.zip: /opt/netscape/plugins/raclass.zip: invalid ELF header 70 75 80 85 90 Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding QObject::connect: No such slot KWrited::block_in(const char*,int) QObject::connect: (sender name: 'unnamed') QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'unnamed') kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : SuSE/Multimedia/Video/susewm.desktop QObject::connect: No such signal KDockArea::docked() QObject::connect: (sender name: 'unnamed') QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'view widget') *******************************************ShowHidePage quickstarting online_update /sbin/yast2: line 154: 9083 Aborted /usr/lib/YaST2/bin/y2base $module "$@" qt -geometry "$Y2_GEOMETRY" -style="$Y2_STYLE" -fn $Y2_XFONT DCOP Cleaning up dead connections. X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 25 (X_SendEvent) Resource id in failed request: 0x2a00008 Serial number of failed request: 5830 Current serial number in output stream: 6514 KCrash: crashing.... crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = klipper path = <unknown> pid = 9026 X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 2 (X_ChangeWindowAttributes) Resource id in failed request: 0x3a00006 Serial number of failed request: 336 Current serial number in output stream: 364 *******************************************ShowHidePage kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed kdeinit: sending SIGHUP to children. warning: leaving MCOP Dispatcher and still 13 object references alive. - Arts::SampleStorage - Arts::Synth_MULTI_ADD - Arts::Synth_MULTI_ADD - Arts::Synth_PLAY - Arts::StereoVolumeControl - Arts::StereoEffectStack - Arts::Synth_BUS_DOWNLINK - Arts::SoundServerV2 - Arts::Synth_BUS_UPLINK - Arts::WavPlayObject - Arts::MidiManager - Arts::Synth_BUS_UPLINK - Arts::WavPlayObject warning: leaving MCOP Dispatcher and still 160 types alive. KLauncher: Exiting on signal 1 FATAL: DCOP communication problem! Last DCOP call before KDED crash was from application '' to object '', function ''. KCrash: crashing.... crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = kded path = <unknown> pid = 8970 kdeinit: sending SIGTERM to children. kdeinit: Exit. In home/user/xsession-errors the only two signs of distress are: WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8 Major opcode: 42 kwin: X_SetInputFocus(0x3a00567): BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) ------------------------------------------------------- -- U: There's a U -- a Unicorn! Run right up and rub its horn. Look at all those points you're losing! UMBER HULKS are so confusing. -- The Roguelet's ABC